We need a Canadian M6 Scout rifle.

Would you want a M6 Scout clone?

  • Yes

    Votes: 108 85.0%

  • No

    Votes: 19 15.0%
  • Total voters
    127
I'm thinking a really simple and light single barrel .410 that can is rifled and can also handle any caliber of .45 possibly right up to 460 S&W magnum, or at least 454 Casull
 
Darkw said:
I'm thinking a really simple and light single barrel .410 that can is rifled and can also handle any caliber of .45 possibly right up to 460 S&W magnum, or at least 454 Casull
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Wouldn't that also depend on the receiver? Forgive the probably incorrect terminology but there were discussions along this line before and I believe it was mentioned that the back plate? (part of the receiver the firing pins stick out of on a break action) would need to able to withstand the pressure of the cartridge.

That was likely the reason that company dropped the 7.62x39 shotgun adapters from their lineup (before they got into business with Chiappa).
 
tiriaq said:
The machined components would be pretty straightforward to manufacture. How many small mfg. shops would have the metal pressing equipment?
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This is the question.

Funny, stamped components used to be the cheap way of doing things. But now with the explosion of CNC equipment, machining is cheaper/easier, unless you're talking very large batches.

There's a lot of rapid-prototyping companies in Calgary that can do stamping, and with the oilpatch in the state it's in, many aren't exactly as busy as they would be normally.
 
Darkw said:
I'm thinking a really simple and light single barrel .410 that can is rifled and can also handle any caliber of .45 possibly right up to 460 S&W magnum, or at least 454 Casull
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hisnibs said:
Wouldn't that also depend on the receiver? Forgive the probably incorrect terminology but there were discussions along this line before and I believe it was mentioned that the back plate? (part of the receiver the firing pins stick out of on a break action) would need to able to withstand the pressure of the cartridge.

That was likely the reason that company dropped the 7.62x39 shotgun adapters from their lineup (before they got into business with Chiappa).
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"Simple and lightweight rifled barrel" that can handle .45 LC & .454 Casul? You're dreaming. The pressures involved dicate a fairly thick barrel. The weight of the gun would increase incredibly.

Also, .410 bore is just that - a .410 bore. If it's wide enough to handle .45LC and such, then the pattern really opens up if you actually shoot .410 shot through it. The Taurus Judge et al are notoriously bad when actually shooting .410 shot.

If you were to build an M6 Scout that could handle .45LC or .454 Casul, it would end up being a horribly compromised gun. The barrel would have to be much stronger and heavier, and so would the receiver. It would be a lousy shotgun - the pattern would be wide open and ineffective on small game unless at very close ranges.
 
I would really like to see this come to life, and it would be great if it could be done here in Canada. Build a quality, durable, reliable and accurate replica with maybee a few modern upgrades. Visa on stand bye :)
 
Haven't had one of these in my hands for a while, but...
-barrels are cylindrical, untapered tubes. Pinned in barrel block.
-barrel block, standing breech plate, lock, muzzle clamp/front sight would require machining. Hammer and trigger very little precision work.
-plunger firing pin selector could be replaced with even simpler type used on late Savage M24s.
-simple rebounding hammer.
-stock parts were formed/pressed sheet metal.
 
grelmar said:
"Simple and lightweight rifled barrel" that can handle .45 LC & .454 Casul? You're dreaming. The pressures involved dicate a fairly thick barrel. The weight of the gun would increase incredibly.

Also, .410 bore is just that - a .410 bore. If it's wide enough to handle .45LC and such, then the pattern really opens up if you actually shoot .410 shot through it. The Taurus Judge et al are notoriously bad when actually shooting .410 shot.

If you were to build an M6 Scout that could handle .45LC or .454 Casul, it would end up being a horribly compromised gun. The barrel would have to be much stronger and heavier, and so would the receiver. It would be a lousy shotgun - the pattern would be wide open and ineffective on small game unless at very close ranges.
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I'm thinking short barrel rifle that can fire 410 in a pinch, rather than a shotgun that is trying to fire magnum pistol rounds. I have no choke in either of my 3 shotguns.
 
shaddp said:
Will keep you in mind, currently I'm not quite ready to let it go but I might not keep it forever :)
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Well keep my user name handy if you ever decide to part with it and we can maybe make a deal. Shoot me a PM if you decide to sell, but you know there's no better time than the present. I have cash ready now, so give it some thought.
 
Did some poking around... found an article, that immediately gave me a headache.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-m6-springfield-scout-rifle/

The legalities of bringing them in/manufacturing them are headache inducing.

Springfield Armories "owns" the design.
CZ "owns" the manufacturing rights.
CZ USA (which is an entirely separate company from CZ) "owns" the import and distribution rights.

To get someone to manufacture them in Canada, would require all three of the above companies to sign off on a "no, we won't sue you for doing that" letter. Good luck with that.

Wonder if any of the Canadian CZ importers could get a batch brought in, maybe there's a few hundred kicking around forgotten in a warehouse in Uherský Brod.
 
tiriaq said:
Made for the Cdn. market, they could be manufactured with the original 14" barrels, so they would fold in half.
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M1akid said:
What about a 223/410 with a insert for the .223 barrel so you could also shoot 22lr... Then you could choose between 22lr, 223, 45lc or 410.... That would be a pretty sweet little backpacking rifle
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Get these 2 ideas together and I'll buy at least one of them. Maybe 2.
 
grelmar said:
Did some poking around... found an article, that immediately gave me a headache.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-m6-springfield-scout-rifle/

The legalities of bringing them in/manufacturing them are headache inducing.

Springfield Armories "owns" the design.
CZ "owns" the manufacturing rights.
CZ USA (which is an entirely separate company from CZ) "owns" the import and distribution rights.

To get someone to manufacture them in Canada, would require all three of the above companies to sign off on a "no, we won't sue you for doing that" letter. Good luck with that.

Wonder if any of the Canadian CZ importers could get a batch brought in, maybe there's a few hundred kicking around forgotten in a warehouse in Uherský Brod.
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Get it reverse engineered in China and made there. Problem solved.
 
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