Anschutz 64 MSR accuracy?
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This rifle shoots as well as the MPR. I have both. I've been using mine for about a month. I have only put about eight or so boxes of ammo through my MS R at 50 yards, and it is capable of shooting some very nice groups that are much better than half-an-inch. It should be quite capable of meeting the 1/2" challenge on this forum. I have used SK Standard Plus and SK Rifle Match and would expect that better ammo would give even better results. A good scope with sufficient magnification is important. I like the rifle very much.
I don't have an MSR, I have an older 64 MS single shot and it shoots fantastic for my liking. best groups I've ever shot in my life! have clover leafed multiple 5 shot groups @ 50 yards and had a few just over an inch @ 100 with good ammo.
No I haven't tried the 50 yard challenge with it.. Yet... should easily shoot it, but not sure the shooter can string that many in a row that tight (I don't use a 'benchrest type' rifle rest or anything, just a sandbag at the front and my hand at the back)
***for reference I've also owned a fully customized Savage Mii FVSR, a CZ 455 and a Norinco NS522 along with multiple other .22's not worth mentioning in an 'accuracy thread' I've only ever 'clover leafed' 5 shot groups with the Norinco before. The 455 has come close but only wears a 3-9 scope, compared to a 6-24 Sightron on the MS lol.
No I haven't tried the 50 yard challenge with it.. Yet... should easily shoot it, but not sure the shooter can string that many in a row that tight (I don't use a 'benchrest type' rifle rest or anything, just a sandbag at the front and my hand at the back)
***for reference I've also owned a fully customized Savage Mii FVSR, a CZ 455 and a Norinco NS522 along with multiple other .22's not worth mentioning in an 'accuracy thread' I've only ever 'clover leafed' 5 shot groups with the Norinco before. The 455 has come close but only wears a 3-9 scope, compared to a 6-24 Sightron on the MS lol.
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Lets hear what owners have to say about their rifle...I bought one 2 weeks ago and I hope to try it before the end of summer.
I want the rifle to be perfect before I try it.
I plan to install an Anschutz rail in the front, a set of Hex screws instead of the slotted screws and maybe a bedding ( still not sure about this ).
After months of search, I finally managed to grab a mint gloss Bausch & Lomb 36X target scope.
I think this scope will be an amazing combination with the MS-R.
Haven't deciced which ring setup I will use... Maybe Leupold rings ?
The 5 shots test target on mine is a quarter inch big so it should shoot pretty well.
I bought one 2 weeks ago and I hope to try it before the end of summer.
I want the rifle to be perfect before I try it.
I plan to install an Anschutz rail in the front, a set of Hex screws instead of the slotted screws and maybe a bedding ( still not sure about this ).
The 5 shots test target on mine is a quarter inch big so it should shoot pretty well.
What do you mean by "Anschutz rail in the front"? The hex screws are a good idea if you can find them. The ones I ordered a few months ago from a Canadian dealer did not fit. http://www.nordicmarksman.com/M4-Hex-Head-Match-64-Bedding-Bolt.html Why bed this rifle before shooting it? This model without modification will outshoot the vast majority of riflemen.
The Anschutz accesories rail : I want to install one under the forearm, like most Anschutz stocks then I will be able to use my bipod, handstop, sling swivel, etc...
I found the screws for the MSR but you have to order them from the USA : https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/product_info.php?cPath=8&products_id=233
The bedding : Like I said, I'm not sure I'll do it ( better/thicker pillars or devcon bedding ) but I don't like how thin the pillar bedding tube are.
I will take the rifle to a very reputable gunsmith and I will ask him what he think about bedding this rifle. We'll see...
Those screws look like they are the right ones (I just measured). If you want an accessory rail, you should have considered the MPR, which does have one. Putting an accessory rail on the MSR might take a bit of work. If you were to inlet for such a rail it wouldn't leave much if any wood under it as the stock is quite thin there as the fore arm area has been hollowed out. Most shooters don't use a bipod with this kind of rifle when shooting off the bench; they use a front rest and rear bag. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
I did not wanted the MPR even if its a nice looking rifle. I was aware that the MSR don't came with a rail.
Yeah its hollow but there is plenty of wood.
EDIT : it have half inch of wood in the thinest part.I have a special rail that only need to be inleted by .225 of an inch deep so there will remain slightly more than a quarter inch of wood. The rail by itself will hold everything together and the sides of the stock are thick.
Don't worry, I'll show you the stock and rail when its done
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Rod B
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I have two Anschutz rifles, An MPR & a 2007. In my opinion neither require bedding.
There are a few Anschutz shooters at our Club & none of these have bedded their rifles. (The opinion of most is that Anschutz does a good job on the stock inletting.)
If your new rifle shoots crappy I would check out all other possible problems & only bed it as a last resort.
I'm certain you will do a great job on the rail, I remember the excellent work you did on your Schultz & Larsen model 70.
There are a few Anschutz shooters at our Club & none of these have bedded their rifles. (The opinion of most is that Anschutz does a good job on the stock inletting.)
If your new rifle shoots crappy I would check out all other possible problems & only bed it as a last resort.
I'm certain you will do a great job on the rail, I remember the excellent work you did on your Schultz & Larsen model 70.
The idea behind bedding this rifle is not really to gain accuracy, its more for reapetability when I disassemble/reassemble the rifle.
I honestly don't think this rifle will shoot like crap
I would shoot it before making your improvements.
Is it possible to trade your stock for one with the rail model? Just a thought.
I have had quite a few 64s over the years and never saw a bedded one.
My old 54 isn't bedded but will shoot better than I can.
Is it possible to trade your stock for one with the rail model? Just a thought.
I have had quite a few 64s over the years and never saw a bedded one.
My old 54 isn't bedded but will shoot better than I can.
lollll
So back to the subject, anyone else have a MSR, how is the accuracy ?
One thing I'm curious to hear is what's the torque value of the action screws of your MS-R ?
Brand spankin' new MSR here just had it's first range day
so far it is about a 1/2" shooter at 50 yards, give or take on any given group. Round count is 250 after today and I did not feed it any top tier ammo yet which I will do once it's had a brick or so down the tube. Target shown does not have the best groups shot on it but it was the most consistent, last ammo of the day. I shot SK +, SK Rifle Match, Eley Sport, Eley Club and Eley Team in that order without any kind of cleaning at the range.49 measured groups (1st to sight in) results were:
0.2"-0.3": 2
0.3"-0.4": 6
0.4"-0.5": 11
0.5"-0.6": 17
0.6"-0.7": 9
0.7"-0.8": 2
0.8"-0.9": 1
0.9"-1": 1
The bell curve favors it being a 1/2" or better rifle as it breaks in I think
I'm getting into silhouette shooting and going to my first match in August, it'll certainly do it's part for me there. The two stage trigger is awesome, so light it doesn't even move the indicator on my Wheeler pull gauge which starts at 8oz and you just think "shoot" and it breaks crisp!
I wasn't even planning to buy another rifle but couldn't help browsing the new shipment at Nordic Marksman and just fell in love with the wood, love dark grain character like that had to have it!
I was using 24 in-lbs for torque. Down at the bottom of page about torque http://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/technical-questions.html
For correct tightening of the action screws, ANSCHÜTZ recommends the use of a torque wrench, starting at 2.5 Nm ( 22 inch-lbs ) and not to exceed 4.0 Nm ( 35 inch-lbs).
Excessive screw torque may cause damage.! If you have further questions contact the service center.
Thanks for the link and torque values.
Thanks Rod, it is a lovely rifle and about time I got one that is proper. 3rd time's a charm as they say? Weatherby XXII still giving me grief and I just took it in to a smith. CZ build still at the shop. I like pretty wood, there it was what can I say? I would say it seems to like Eley ammo in any flavor I feed it and I still have Edge, Match and Tenex to test out when I feel it's broken in/ready for the good stuff. I heard Lapua has been unable to source primer and has not been producing ammo for the 2016 year so that's why I picked up a bunch of Eley and some RWS no good for a rifle to "like" center-x if I can't get it! Couple more targets from the range day with it, I can tell this rifle is going to be a shooter!
