Wow 35 Rem is great!

How much more punch do you need for moose??

This reminds me of a thread about the 45-70 that came up the other day. Basically, the general consensus from those in the know (not me) was slow-and-big will certainly kill, but they do not provide the sort of bang-flop or grizzly-stomping kills that some people seem to expect - they are not the hammer of Thor, regardless of how many people have called 'em that. Do they kill? Absolutely! Are they the best option for stopping an angry bear trying to chew on you? Probably not. There is a reason that the faster cartridges (not even the magnums, just your 308/30-06 sorta velocities) have largely replaced things like the 35rem and 45-70 - you need speed to get hydrostatic shock, and hydrostatic shock is a significant factor in bang-flop performance. Otherwise you are just blowing a hole in the animal and relying on it bleeding out...
 
How to s'plain H/S?
Riding yore motorcycle down the highway at 'undritt miles an our.
Bug hits yer fore head.
Fruck that smarts.
Ohkay, now yer dewn the same silly speed and a rawk the size oh yer
fist hits yer fore'edd.
Gonna nawk yewse out.
 
Coincidentally my stihl is the only 270 I will ever own..... :)

Oh come on now, don't be like Douglas and hate on use 270 guys....

Until my teens, "I" was the "brush buster." Dad was too cheap to get a dog... he said, "that's why I had kids..."

Sounds about right, my oldest turns 6 this Sept might have to give that a try.
 
Oh come on now, don't be like Douglas and hate on use 270

Meh..... Don't hate on guys that use them...... It's just my character...... I tend to develop a distain for anything the masses call "the greatest" or "the only rifle you need, will kill anything in region x"....... It's why I will never own a .375 Ruger......

As for the kidlets...... My oldest just turned 12...... I am not against having the young guys doing dog duty, but they should at least be able to carry a rifle and get their own opportunities while doing so..... Working on it as I am 41 and still doing dog duty..... Lol
 
Meh..... Don't hate on guys that use them...... It's just my character...... I tend to develop a distain for anything the masses call "the greatest" or "the only rifle you need, will kill anything in region x"....... It's why I will never own a .375 Ruger......

As for the kidlets...... My oldest just turned 12...... I am not against having the young guys doing dog duty, but they should at least be able to carry a rifle and get their own opportunities while doing so..... Working on it as I am 41 and still doing dog duty..... Lol

So does liking the 270 win make you a sheeple? Or is that reserved for those who hold it in disdain?
I can never figure that out.

Either way, I miss my 35 rem. Was a fn1900 and given my fascination and enjoyment of the old auto 5, I sometimes miss that gun. And then I remember I sold it for good money and bought a 3030 with it.

Still have 3 boxes of shells sitting in the basement for the next 35.
 
So does liking the 270 win make you a sheeple? Or is that reserved for those who hold it in disdain?
I can never figure that out.

Either way, I miss my 35 rem. Was a fn1900 and given my fascination and enjoyment of the old auto 5, I sometimes miss that gun. And then I remember I sold it for good money and bought a 3030 with it.

Still have 3 boxes of shells sitting in the basement for the next 35.

Liking the .270 makes you a guy that likes .270 in my books...... I don't classify things that way.......

Much like the ethics discussion, caliber selection is a personal thing....... If you aren't going after something outside the .270's range, and there ain't much here in canada, fill your boots....... It's just me..... I prefer to use a purpose built screwdriver than a multi bit one....... They all do the job and have their place........
 
How to s'plain H/S?
Riding yore motorcycle down the highway at 'undritt miles an our.
Bug hits yer fore head.
Fruck that smarts.
Ohkay, now yer dewn the same silly speed and a rawk the size oh yer
fist hits yer fore'edd.
Gonna nawk yewse out.

Nope Hydrostatic Shock is best explained by pointing your 22 lr down at a group of minows and plunking a round into them ( muzzle above the water newbies ). Got some floating now, stunned. Take a big old 50 cal round PL ball and use your slingshot into a group of minows, none floating.
And IIRC it's not 'Hydrostatic shock'; static referring to ' At rest '.
Youse would be looking for 'Hydrodynamic shock' perhaps?
But Hydrostatic shock is most definitely NOT the correct phrase. Sorta like unthawed; " Really you unthawed the stock waterer ?"
Think about it for a moment.
But not directed at Kamloopy. He's OK
 
I agree that there are different rounds that do stuff better than 35 Rem, I just like 35 Rem haha. It's new to me and I think it's cool.

And really, that's cool by me. I don't feel the need to explain why my favorite pet caliber is superior to your's...that's a dyck move.
Like a woman showing off an engagement ring and another showing off her's " Look, mine's bigger!"
B*tch move.
Enjoy it.
 
Although I've never liked a 270 I love the 25/06. Basically the same. The 270 maybe even better due to heavier bullets but I still prefer the 25.
I'm interested in the 35 cals and have been trying to shoot as many as I can. I was almost settled on the 358 win but I may settle for the rem. It now basically coming down to the rifle and not the head stamp. I have a deal sorta pending on a 35 rem marlin and when I'm back in civilization ill go look at a 141 in 35 rem. I'm at the cottage now. Hopefully by black bear season ill have a new rifle to carry

Also have an interest in 30/30. I've noticed I'm going for slower cals nowadays. Only holding 3 magnums now. 22. 300wm and 458 wm. Neither are really barrel burners
 
A long deceased hunting mentor from my teenage years carried a Remington 141 in 35 for the entire time I knew him.
It served him well putting Antelope, Moose and Deer in the freezer for many decades and in his own words was quite a step up from his first hunting rifle, an 1873 Winchester 44-40.
 
Nope Hydrostatic Shock is best explained by pointing your 22 lr down at a group of minows and plunking a round into them ( muzzle above the water newbies ). Got some floating now, stunned. Take a big old 50 cal round PL ball and use your slingshot into a group of minows, none floating.
And IIRC it's not 'Hydrostatic shock'; static referring to ' At rest '.
Youse would be looking for 'Hydrodynamic shock' perhaps?
But Hydrostatic shock is most definitely NOT the correct phrase. Sorta like unthawed; " Really you unthawed the stock waterer ?"
Think about it for a moment.
But not directed at Kamloopy. He's OK

Oh the term hydrostatic shock is woefully inaccurate, but I didn't pick the name. Hydraulic shock would be a better name to describe what happens, but nobody asked my opinion when the term was coined (hell, I probably wasn't even alive...)
 
Was asking you specifically, other then range what wouldn't a 220gr bullet with muzzle velocity around 2100-220fps kill under 150 yards?

Just didn't want to open a can-o-worms....but I was thinking specifically of range and not so much "adequate power". My sole big game rifle these days is a Ruger #1 in (the dreaded) 45-70. So my choice of weaponry imposes the same constraints on me, from my perspective. Until I sold it recently, my "moose gun" was a Rem700 in 338WM. I would carry that one over my 45-70 in case I had to take a shot over 200 yards or so, which was a distinct possibility with some of the lakes and clearcuts we used to hunt. I wouldn't hesitate to take the Ruger on a moose hunt today, but would accept the constraints that come with it.

Really depends on the type of terrain the guy will be chasing moose in, IMO.
 
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