M39 picure thread!!!
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Looking closely more of those stocks are wartime than not. 20 was a good pick! I was eyeing it as it flipped over to "sold". Nice 3 piece wartime stock with some cool plug repairs along the splice.
I'd have hit that
Several of them I can see are lack of pine tar finish are definitely refurbished with post war stock.
First off, the finish has been proven to not be pine tar. It's Kiväärintukkiöljy, a Finnish product that has no western equivalent.
This finish was NOT put on at the factory. It was available to troops after the rifles were issued. Some rifles got coated, others not. But this is what is responsible for that lovely dark wartime stock with yellow flame licks throughout.
Rounded finger joint stocks are wartime. The pointed finger joints are either very late war or early post-war and the square joints are from well after the war. A wartime stock goes not mean a gun was not overhauled. Stocks were only replaced if they needed it, but a lack of dark finish does not, by itself, prove a gun was overhauled.
I saw that. Oddly, he's really jacked the prices on some VKT guns with obviously sanded and re-worked SAKO cartouche stocks as though that should make the guns worth more, meanwhile there are a few with proper original depot-built 3 piece stocks that are appropriate for a non-refurb VKT, some with honest carry wear, that look original and un-refurbished, but those guns he has listed cheapest.
I suspect Jacques might not know the M39 collector market very well and places a premium on the Sako stock marking - whether valuable/collectible or not.
At at least $100 cheaper per rifle, the rifles on the Tradex site are still generally a better buy than these latest ones IMHO.
First off, the finish has been proven to not be pine tar. It's Kiväärintukkiöljy, a Finnish product that has no western equivalent.
This finish was NOT put on at the factory. It was available to troops after the rifles were issued. Some rifles got coated, others not. But this is what is responsible for that lovely dark wartime stock with yellow flame licks throughout.
Rounded finger joint stocks are wartime. The pointed finger joints are either very late war or early post-war and the square joints are from well after the war. A wartime stock goes not mean a gun was not overhauled. Stocks were only replaced if they needed it, but a lack of dark finish does not, by itself, prove a gun was overhauled.
thanks!very interesting!!!
First off, the finish has been proven to not be pine tar. It's Kiväärintukkiöljy, a Finnish product that has no western equivalent.
This finish was NOT put on at the factory. It was available to troops after the rifles were issued. Some rifles got coated, others not. But this is what is responsible for that lovely dark wartime stock with yellow flame licks throughout.
Rounded finger joint stocks are wartime. The pointed finger joints are either very late war or early post-war and the square joints are from well after the war. A wartime stock goes not mean a gun was not overhauled. Stocks were only replaced if they needed it, but a lack of dark finish does not, by itself, prove a gun was overhauled.
BTW do you know the stories behind those band-aid like stock reinforcements on both side of the stock? Are those normal on m39 stock?? Thanks for your inputs.
What is the general consensus on post war rifle stocks that have obviously seen use? How long did the Finns use M39's post war? I have seen M39's in post war stocks, with obvious signs of use and being issued, such as firing pin take down holes/marks in the hand guard grooves etc. This was not done by bubba as the rifles came from Finland that way.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks
Finland released the last of then in the 1990's. They were placed by the VALMET M76 in 1976, but would have been issued regularly up to that time.
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