Can you get the Serbu Super Shorty ?
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mellows
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- Blue Marble
Id purchase one if it could be Non Res with a stock.
gcarms
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- Grande Cache..... AB.
Dlask products are top shelf!!! It's based on an 870 express and their barrels are second to non in my books.
Max Owner
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I had to Google it.
Such an interesting specimen.
Such an interesting specimen.
Bad Lieutenant
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I'm sure Wanstalls appreciates you guys advertising a competing vendor in their business forum, that they pay for, especially for a product that is not what the OP was inquiring about...
I too would like to know if you can bring in the Serbu Super Shorty, as well as the BFG-50 and BFG-50A, since you're now importing another Serbu product.
I'm fairly certain the Shorty would be NR with a full stock, but who knows with this gov't?
The way Super Shorties are manufactured will prohibit them for export - assuming if the US State Dept. would even approve the export to begin with.
Surbu uses manufactured barrels and then cuts them down to length to build the Super Shorty. This is perfectly legal in the US but such an activity prevents it from being imported into Canada because it is deemed a prohibited device. If Surbu were to use barrels that were manufactured at a short length then this would meet compliance under Canadian law.
A far easier way of getting this type of shotgun is to get Wanstalls to order lots of the new Mossberg short length 500's and 590's that are now shown as available on Mossberg's website. They pretty much copy the Surbu offering and are presumably compliant under Canadian law.
Surbu uses manufactured barrels and then cuts them down to length to build the Super Shorty. This is perfectly legal in the US but such an activity prevents it from being imported into Canada because it is deemed a prohibited device. If Surbu were to use barrels that were manufactured at a short length then this would meet compliance under Canadian law.
A far easier way of getting this type of shotgun is to get Wanstalls to order lots of the new Mossberg short length 500's and 590's that are now shown as available on Mossberg's website. They pretty much copy the Surbu offering and are presumably compliant under Canadian law.
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There is no prohibition for exportation of these type of firearms just a bit more red tape, ask me how i know !
Serbu is a manufacturer or remanufacturer, and there is already FRTs entries for these shotguns, they are fully legal in Canada and restricted in the original configuration.
Anyway, lets wait for Wanstall answer.
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There is no prohibition for exportation of these type of firearms just a bit more red tape, ask me how i know !
Serbu is a manufacturer or remanufacturer, and there is already FRTs entries for these shotguns, they are fully legal in Canada and restricted in the original configuration.
Anyway, lets wait for Wanstall answer.
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Thanks. I'm aware of your shorth shotguns. They are beauties.
My comments didn't indicate that they were illegal for import because of US law. An item may be pefectly legal for export but a license to export can be denied based on whatever "policy" is being followed.
My comments were regarding inadmisabiity based on Canadian law. If the Surbu is supplied with manufactured to length barrels then it is perfectly admissable to Canada. Cut down a manufactured barrel under18" for the use on the Surbu, it then becomes a prohibited firearm.
Surbu has openly said he cuts down existing barrels to keep his costs down for the US market. I suspect he makes changes in the manufacturing process to make them Importable under Canadian law.
Are you implying that it's perfectly legal to import "re-manufactured" barrels by simply cutting and re-stamping it? If that's correct, I was not aware of it being acceptable under Canadian law.
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I am not aware of any US State dept policy that may be use to denied an export permit for these guns, but i am aware of some Manufacturers policy that forbid the export for these type of firearms.
The RCMP has already considered that the Serbu Super Shorty shotguns are Restricted since there is FRTs entries already, they are not prohibited, whatever process Serbu use to manufacture their barrels is irrelevant.
Serbu is a manufacturer.
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I'm not implying anything. but there is no law about how a manufacturer should make their shotguns barrels.
Again, these firearms are legal in Canada per RCMP.
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Bad Lieutenant
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FYI - I was told by another vendor that if the barrels are cut down outside the country, then it doesn't matter. They're only prohibited if cut down in Canada. This would explain how the Super Shorty gained a restricted FRT...
NickVR
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- New Brunswick
Very interesting - would be pretty cool to have as a safe queen. Dont really have a use for a restricted shotgun but would be cool too add to the collection regardless
Bad Lieutenant
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Perhaps with a full stock these could be NR?
Also, maybe someone here can explain why these are restricted and Mare's Legs aren't...
johndoe45auto
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- MONTREAL
i saw these on hickok45's channel and thought it was pretty cool
Because of RCMPs interpretation of the law, it is explained in the FRT list under Serbu Super Shorty.
They could probably be deregistered if there is a full stock on it.
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Bad Lieutenant
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They are, but between the Super Shorty or an NR, 5-shot, Mossberg 590A1 Police, with 14" bbl and raptor grip... I would take the latter.
But that seems to be just as hard to find as the Serbu. I wish Wanstalls would bring in both.
