Ranger Rifles to be on Sale in October
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It's not as bad as it sounds. The money going to Colt is keeping people off the dole who will then spend those funds in Canada. They will be income taxed and consumption taxed and the businesses they patronage will be corporate taxed. So will Colt Canada.
I've read estimates that as much as 75% of money the ### spends in Canada trickles back to them in various forms of taxes within a year or so.
And if you want to see wasted tax dollars, forget this, go look at what the cabinet is spending on moving expenses, limousine services, portraits of the PM and all the signage and documentation that had to be changed so Environment Canada could become Environment and Climate Change Canada.
Of course, that last one was practical and not political, dontcha know?
I'll take the loser for $1079....lol.
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/P...ABX_Ceska-Zbrojovka-557-Ranger-Rifle--308-Win
I think that rifle would jam in very cold weather.... at least the old enfields held up to cold weather...
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The CAF/DND arent allowed to sell weapons to the public. So expect them to be smelted.
I'm not sure that's a real constraint. Of course, issues such as potential liability and political "saleability" are another matter.
The DND disposal policy is online here: http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-defence-admin-orders-directives-3000/3013-1.page#md
Emphasis in red by me.
Later in the policy:
This was never really in the cards although it was mentioned in the Human Factors Requirements survey.
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All keeping in mind that firearms are considered "Controlled Goods" under DND and GC Surplus under PWGSC. Controlled goods are usually only sold to outside nations or back to the OEMs.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/ppa-pap/faq-eng.htm
Regulations in s.12.1 state: “a public service agency can only sell, barter, give lend or rent a firearm to another public service agency” and therefore eliminates the possibility of trade-ups or buy-backs.
Damn, I think you're right. I wonder when the Public Agency Regulations s.12.1 was published and under which government. Probably a UN-driven scheme.
Edit: Enacted by the minister of Public Safety on October 31, 2008. So another pointless liberal regulation enacted by the Conservatives. And they wonder why they lost support among gun owners. We expected so much more than just the LGR being rescinded. For example, we expected to not get crap like these regs.
I wonder how the Rangers get to optionally keep their personal enfield rifles? I'll bet it's taking an order in council to make it happen.
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Which violates the law unless there has been an order in council to waive the regulation. Presumably there has been one.
In Italy at a company called Euroarms, several thousands of them, ex Italian navy stockpile from the 1950's and 60's, including many crates of ex Canadian supplied new and issued but excellent condition Lee Enfields with some other British supplied serviceable but well used ones -
The condition of the lot is really excellent considering the age of the rifles because (expecially the N°4) they were not submitted to use and or manipulation during 40 years of deposit in the Italian Navy Bases. At least 50% of the rifles have their original matching bolt.
Many N°4 Long Branch has been stored in the original wood boxes used to deliver them to the Italian Government from the Canadian Arsenals.
| These Long Branch still has the original grease which cover both the stock and the metal parts; all of them bear a red tag on the rear sling swivel, with the date and the serial number pencil handwritten and signed by the inspector. | ||
| Some N°4 bears also a green tag on the middle sling swivel, with the words “Tested on Range”, the serial number and the signature of the tester. |
This is not a black and white answer.
ISED Canada does Canadian industry capacity studies and decides what capabilities need "direct" industrial benefits (i.e. everything made in Canada).
I honestly have no idea how they decide where to apply these policies, but they apply in some cases and not in others. It's not a CF or DND decision though - it's made by the former Industry Canada and approved by Treasury Board (which is really just cabinet).
I think you'd have to work in military procurement to get a better understanding than this. I'm only going by what readily available on the ISED, TBS and DND websites.
Go read the regulation link. It's c;ear it includes Departments and the Armed Forces. I wish it were not so, but the regulation is very clearly written.
