Taking your new Shadow 2 to the club in Ontario

Number of times in my life I have been asked to show a reg: 0

Amount I care about waiting until a piece of paper arrives: -7

lol


realistically, you could build your own risk analysis. 20+ years of driving, been pulled over 3x (1 speeding ticket about 15 years ago) I drive in excess of 50,000km/year. Multiply the amount of time I actually have seen a police car between my house and the range (0 times).. and it a equals a risk factor of 0...

your math results may vary lol
 
Man the police in Ontario must have nothing else to do OR there is a lot of wasted spit flying around on this thread. Over here in my part of BC, if the gun is registered it is registered., end of story. Frankly our local officers have enough to do as it is. They are not all about chasing down honest gun owners. They are more apt to wish they had time to join you on the range.

Take Care

Bob
 
Man the police in Ontario must have nothing else to do OR there is a lot of wasted spit flying around on this thread. Over here in my part of BC, if the gun is registered it is registered., end of story. Frankly our local officers have enough to do as it is. They are not all about chasing down honest gun owners. They are more apt to wish they had time to join you on the range.

Bob

That's right, they're too busy confiscating 10/22 mags and going door-to-door picking up guns. ;)
 
That's right, they're too busy confiscating 10/22 mags and going door-to-door picking up guns. ;)

Or enforcing expired PALS, stopping folks for littering and J Walking. Some here could benefit from a ride in a Patrol Car to see what our police have to deal with on a daily basis.

Maybe I have been lucky but since 1962 when I acquired my Granddads Colt I have never been asked to produce a registration certificate for a registered firearm. Lived in three provinces and the NWT. I have not had my front door kicked in by and officer of the law either. Must have been lucky I guess.

Take Care

Bob
 
Guess you don't live in High River. :kickInTheNuts:

Nope but as an Albertan, born and bred, I know High River was an anomaly due in part to the way the laws are written. Tough to be charged with enforcing the law and trying to do right at the same time.

Didn't happen in Ft. MacMurry, though even with the Liberals in power. My son was able to pass on his garage codes to an officer while he was away, who was kind enough to check on the inside of his house and turn off the outside sprinklers once the fire had moved on. He had firearms properly stored in the house and they were left alone. Mistakes can be made and are forgivable if lessons are learned. Appears they were. In my son's case it turned out the officer was a young lady who he had gone to school with back in Peterborough. Grades 1 - 9. Pays to network early in life. Sometimes it is a pretty small world.

Take Care

Bob
 
Man the police in Ontario must have nothing else to do OR there is a lot of wasted spit flying around on this thread. Over here in my part of BC, if the gun is registered it is registered., end of story. Frankly our local officers have enough to do as it is. They are not all about chasing down honest gun owners. They are more apt to wish they had time to join you on the range.

Take Care

Bob

If you're spitting while typing, IMO you're doing it wrong.
 
It would appear to me that every Province seems to have it's own rules concerning the FRC. In Ontario when you purchase a new firearm whether it's from an LGS or private sale, all you need to take it home is the Transfer Notification (Buyer). However that same Transfer Notification (Buyer) doesn't allow you to take it anywhere after you get it home. You must wait for the FRC. Now even I'm somewhat confused on this issue. Some posts in this thread from others who live in Ontario have been told that it's OK to take your new pistol to the range before receiving your FRC while others are getting the same info that I received that you can't take it anywhere until you receive your FRC. As previously stated it's up to the individual as to whether or not they accept the Transfer Notification (Buyer) as an interim FRC or not. Personally, I just won't take that chance.
 
It would appear to me that every Province seems to have it's own rules concerning the FRC. In Ontario when you purchase a new firearm whether it's from an LGS or private sale, all you need to take it home is the Transfer Notification (Buyer). However that same Transfer Notification (Buyer) doesn't allow you to take it anywhere after you get it home. You must wait for the FRC. Now even I'm somewhat confused on this issue. Some posts in this thread from others who live in Ontario have been told that it's OK to take your new pistol to the range before receiving your FRC while others are getting the same info that I received that you can't take it anywhere until you receive your FRC. As previously stated it's up to the individual as to whether or not they accept the Transfer Notification (Buyer) as an interim FRC or not. Personally, I just won't take that chance.


Hey kidcom, I bet you're more a letter of the law guy as opposed to a spirit of the law guy:p
 
kidcom one of the things I have learned in life is when you ask anyone other than the main man if you can do something the answer almost always is no. The reason is simple. If they say no you won't likely do it and the individual has no worries that he may have given you permission to do something wrong. Give that some thought. The law is pretty clear. If the gun is registered you can do what the law allows. In this instance the gun is registered. The FRC is only one way of proving it is. The letter confirming the guns registration is another.

Lastly, one other thing I have learned over the course of my lifetime is in this country the police are not in the habit of stopping folks who are going about their business in a lawful manner. The only time I have had any conversations outside of social interactions with police officers has been around Christmas when they set up road inspections for drinking and driving and when I have on a few occasions found myself being reminded about the highway speed limits. In the latter case, an early admission of my guilt and a polite apology has left me with a warning ticket and a "have a nice day". There are well discussed exceptions to all of this butr those instances are not the rule. They are the exceptions.

I would suggest the 2nd paragraph would describe most folks experiences on this forum. I am firmly in the camp of police are my friends and they do play an important part in our society. Seizing a gun when it obviously is registered would not be something I would expect them to do without some other significant concurrent occurrence. Just saying.

Take Care

Bob
 
There was a similar thread to this that was CLOSED! Why, because the only purpose of the original post is to stir the pot and get people arguing. The bottom line is that the gun IS REGISTERED TO YOU THE MOMENT YOU PICK IT UP, OR IT IS SHIPPED TO YOU! Yes, you can get a hard nosed RCMP officer pull you over, and give you a hard time, but really, you are still not breaking any laws as you are allowed to transport your registered firearms to your club. Again, lets not try to be the gun police and let people continue as they have been. It is their choice, just like it is mine if I left my license at home and drove to the corner store. To my knowledge, there has NEVER been an instance where a gun was permanently confiscated for having your transfer permit (which shows your registration), and not your yellow piece of paper. If anyone has any facts or news articles, please post them, otherwise, lets let this thread die!
 
There was a similar thread to this that was CLOSED! Why, because the only purpose of the original post is to stir the pot and get people arguing. The bottom line is that the gun IS REGISTERED TO YOU THE MOMENT YOU PICK IT UP, OR IT IS SHIPPED TO YOU! Yes, you can get a hard nosed RCMP officer pull you over, and give you a hard time, but really, you are still not breaking any laws as you are allowed to transport your registered firearms to your club. Again, lets not try to be the gun police and let people continue as they have been. It is their choice, just like it is mine if I left my license at home and drove to the corner store. To my knowledge, there has NEVER been an instance where a gun was permanently confiscated for having your transfer permit (which shows your registration), and not your yellow piece of paper. If anyone has any facts or news articles, please post them, otherwise, lets let this thread die!

Yes this thread was CLOSED then it was reopened. Contrary to what you say or believe, it certainly wasn't my intention to create a thread where people would argue back and forth on what I believe is a serious subject. There are so many differing opinions on this issue from province to province. Obviously nothing is written in stone regarding this. If you feel that it's ok to take your gun to the range prior to receiving the FRC then do so. I know that I won't.
 
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