375 H&H ballistics are superb. Just housed in a goofy outdated cartridge design. It's the best choice if you like to sit in an arm chair and dream of african safaris in khaki short shorts while you nod off after your 4pm supper listening to the weather network on tv
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375 H&H ballistics are superb. Just housed in a goofy outdated cartridge design. It's the best choice if you like to sit in an arm chair and dream of african safaris in khaki short shorts while you nod off after your 4pm supper listening to the weather network on tv
It seems to do the job equally as well as the 375 Ruger in spite of your opinion.
At least that was my findings after having three different rifles chambered for the 375 Ruger.
I don't understand the contempt / dislike for the Holland & Holland when the two cartridges are so similar in performance and both still maintain good sales.
I would still buy either one, the Ruger or the Holland regardless, after using and reloading both I see very little difference, at least not enough to hate either cartridge or their respective users.
I've just never been a fan of belted cases and I preferred the standard action length of the Ruger round. The extra 100-200 fps was a bonus and the accuracy out of the Ruger was absolutely superb. The H&H case just looks like grandpa's model T.
A very cool cartridge in my R8 is the .500 Jeffrey... it dates back to the 1920's but has many features associated with modern cartridge design like rebated rim and shorter neck. It's quite unique.
Ardent
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Some H&H owners just dream of ancient missed opportunities on shady ladies while cradling a plastic Potters bottle, then go hunt all manner of toothy and horned things in the morning around the world. Also a questionable fact that .375 H&H owners spend around ~79% less time in gun shops, and ~84% less time leaning on counters, than .375 Ruger users.
...but... the .375 H&H is also put in a standard length action and of the mainstream production .375s only Ruger and CZ put it in a larger action, and only one of those larger actions is left. Remington, Winchester, Sako, Zastava, Browning, Mauser, Howa, even Savage...
Often the only difference is a mag box and follower, that make no difference in the bolt throw length. The .375 Ruger's principle claim to fame has been amusing .375 H&H owners, and even folks who just know what it is, since 2007.
.375 H&H has been in standard actions since 1912, but somehow the note was missed when the Ruger came out with that aspect as a "benefit".
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I don't hate the 375 H&H, it's had a good run. But there can only be one king, and the 375 Ruger is the new king of 375's
The .375 Ruger's principle claim to fame has been amusing .375 H&H owners, and even folks who just know what it is, since 2007.
Yes, I admit to being amused by the 375 Ruger cartridge and I really like it having had three rifles thus chambered.
However, after using the H&H since the early 1970s I cannot find fault with it as its worked flawlessly for me putting a countless amount of meat in the freezer.
Regardless of opinions or criticisms the old 375 H&H will continue to do so for a long time...like it or not..
A very good run, but now it's obsolete. Of course, many people enjoy using obsolete cartridges and firearms, and they still will work despite their obsolescence.
That's undeniable now with the 375 Ruger being so well represented in African gun shops as well as North American shops. It's astonishing how rapidly the 375 Ruger ascended to take the throne!
Why are there so many dancing bananas every time this topic comes up???? I have a 375 Ruger and would never say its "better" than any other 375.... Most people that argue whats better doesnt even really need a 375 anyway...... Popcorn eaters. Banana dancers........ What do they say about the 375 Ruger in the African forums????
The dancing banana is a happy emoticon. And since 375 Ruger owners are very happy, the banana represents this.
The Ruger is well represented in Africa these days, and many resident hunters there have embraced it for the same reasons NA hunters have.
Well ! All this was FUNNY for sure ! lol RJ
lol RJSome H&H owners just dream of ancient missed opportunities on shady ladies while cradling a plastic Potters bottle, then go hunt all manner of toothy and horned things in the morning around the world. Also a questionable fact that .375 H&H owners spend around ~79% less time in gun shops, and ~84% less time leaning on counters, than .375 Ruger users.
...but... the .375 H&H is also put in a standard length action and of the mainstream production .375s only Ruger and CZ put it in a larger action, and only one of those larger actions is left. Remington, Winchester, Sako, Zastava, Browning, Mauser, Howa, even Savage...
The .375 Ruger's principle claim to fame has been amusing .375 H&H owners, and even folks who just know what it is, since 2007.
Of course you're right. I just like seeing the H&H guys get all riled up. But I really do prefer the Ruger. It's way more cool.
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The stainless Ruger Alaskan in either .375 or .416 is an ideal platform for use in humid or sal####er environments where interactions with foul tempered bears can occur suddenly and at close range. To this extent, the Ruger rifle and cartridge are a step ahead of what was previously available off the rack, and was reasonably priced to boot. The custom rifle enthusiast has always been able to get what he wanted or was prepared to pay for, but the Ruger came onto the scene as a capable journeyman's rifle, and attempts to adorn this tool with some title referring to eminence, or even aristocracy, is misplaced. Royalty might be a term properly used to describe Neo's custom .300 H&H bolt gun, or Ardent's H&H double rifle, but not a plastic stocked Ruger.
The belt found on some rifle cartridges can either be useful, or is neutral in it's utility. It serves the purpose of providing a rim on straight wall or tapered rimless cartridges, or on bottleneck cartridges that have insufficient shoulder angle to provide reliable headspace for the cartridge. Where it appears on modern cartridges having sharp shoulder angles, it serves no purpose outside the minds of advertisers, but neither does its presence result negatively in the function of the rifle its chambered in. When modern belted cartridges are reloaded, typically the shoulder provides the headspace after the initial firing, or the brass is being overworked, and will fail at the web in short order.
The belt found on some rifle cartridges can either be useful, or is neutral in it's utility. It serves the purpose of providing a rim on straight wall or tapered rimless cartridges, or on bottleneck cartridges that have insufficient shoulder angle to provide reliable headspace for the cartridge. Where it appears on modern cartridges having sharp shoulder angles, it serves no purpose outside the minds of advertisers, but neither does its presence result negatively in the function of the rifle its chambered in. When modern belted cartridges are reloaded, typically the shoulder provides the headspace after the initial firing, or the brass is being overworked, and will fail at the web in short order.
Ardent
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Your .375 Ruger is one of my favourite guns on this forum that I've never met, I just have fun with this H&H vs Ruger these days and treat it like your favourite hockey team. It's fun to root for one and slag the other even if it's not terribly accurate criticism, goes both ways in the argument and you're one of the group that can cheer for both the Oilers and Flames.
I guided this .375 Ruger for Grizzly, whilst backing it up with a .375 H&H, this spring. Was the first .375 Ruger I've guided and it worked superbly, rolled the bear and it was dead before it stopped rolling. Client with .375 Ruger Alaskan in hand the moment we approached. And then the H&H that backed up the Ruger.
I would like to think that I kept an open mind when I had and loaded for both 375s.
My Son made a swap for the 375 Ruger / Howa and he loves it so now I am back to just the H&H but that is only temporary.
I would like to build a 375 Ruger on a pre - 64 Mod.70, one of my all time favourite rifles.
Second choice would be a Mauser 98 and I believe a fellow CGNer ( Mauser 98 ) has had that exact rifle built so that build would be feasible.
I would like to hear what you fellas would build a 375 Ruger rifle on if given the resources ?
My Son made a swap for the 375 Ruger / Howa and he loves it so now I am back to just the H&H but that is only temporary.
I would like to build a 375 Ruger on a pre - 64 Mod.70, one of my all time favourite rifles.
Second choice would be a Mauser 98 and I believe a fellow CGNer ( Mauser 98 ) has had that exact rifle built so that build would be feasible.
I would like to hear what you fellas would build a 375 Ruger rifle on if given the resources ?
For the H&H, a soggy turnip is more appropriate,anyway.
More appropriate for you than the H&H...
