He was carrying a Smith and Wesson on the day he died. http://www.fieldandstream.com/artic...d-bill-was-carrying-when-he-was-murdered-1876
Best Civil War Revolver?
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He was carrying a Smith and Wesson on the day he died. http://www.fieldandstream.com/artic...d-bill-was-carrying-when-he-was-murdered-1876
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My vote would be the Remington-hands down with the strongest frame IMHO- the Starr was great to reload with a spare cylinder, however if you dropped the knurled screw holding it all together you had a useless piece of iron in your hand.
Going to have to go with the Navy Colt...point-ability and a tad smaller than 1858 Remington.
Remmy's are pretty big guns...remind me of the Ruger Cap 'n ball. Had one (Ruger) but thought it pointed like a freaking Bowling Ball compared to the Colt Navy...sold it.
Remmy's are pretty big guns...remind me of the Ruger Cap 'n ball. Had one (Ruger) but thought it pointed like a freaking Bowling Ball compared to the Colt Navy...sold it.
I am going to go with Remington first, Colt second, then Starr and would put the Savage at last place or perhaps a bit lower
I think you need to worry about having a cap fall into the recess in the hammer for the hand, less on a Remington than on a Colt. As Bill mentioned; the risk of dropping the screw on the Starr and additionally the hand on a Starr is a very difficult piece to make if one was damaged. The Savage requires hands like a gorilla to #### it using the ring trigger and it is extremely easy to bend or break the hand on a Savage because it is tied into the toggle link system that brings the cylinder backwards and forwards
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I think you need to worry about having a cap fall into the recess in the hammer for the hand, less on a Remington than on a Colt. As Bill mentioned; the risk of dropping the screw on the Starr and additionally the hand on a Starr is a very difficult piece to make if one was damaged. The Savage requires hands like a gorilla to #### it using the ring trigger and it is extremely easy to bend or break the hand on a Savage because it is tied into the toggle link system that brings the cylinder backwards and forwards
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Well Mooncoon can't speak to the Savage but it did look like it had a good bore axis & quite point able? I've just sold my credit card to Satan, so I'll have a few more Remi's to play with & study. I'll post how that works when they arrive & the Wifey finds out...
Are they originals? If so where did you get them? My want for the Remington is causing me sleep issues. LOL
I am not sure how I would class the Savage in terms of "pointablity" but they are strange bulky guns. The nipples point at right angles to the bore like a pepperbox and the hammer falls more or less in line with the barrel and above it. The cylinder indexes on a a recessed opening at the muzzle end of each "chamber" which goes over the end of the barrel. That part is good but what moves the cylinder back and forth is a toggle linkage and if the ring trigger is not all the way forward before firing, the toggle will open but the cylinder does not move as fast as the toggle moves. That means that you are putting a sudden thrust on the hand which is fastened to the toggle, and it will bend or break. My hands are a little too delicate to easily pull the ring trigger which rotates the cylinder and cocks the gun at the same time
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Saturday at two different auctions & it cost me...
here are two photos of the Savage mechanism. The first shows the toggle linkage and the second shows the same with the hand attached. When the linkage tips up and brings the cylinder rearwards, the hand also angles up revolving the cyliner
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The Remington New Model Army Revolver would get my vote;
.44 cal. (Not .36)
Easy to change cylinders. (No cylinder wedge to lose or screw up)
Solid one piece frame.
This is a very accurate well balanced revolver.
The Starr Model 1863 SA Revolver is interesting ---but the cylinder changing procedure is 'possibly' problematic compared to the Remington.
.44 cal. (Not .36)
Easy to change cylinders. (No cylinder wedge to lose or screw up)
Solid one piece frame.
This is a very accurate well balanced revolver.
The Starr Model 1863 SA Revolver is interesting ---but the cylinder changing procedure is 'possibly' problematic compared to the Remington.
The Remington New Model Army Revolver would get my vote;
.44 cal. (Not .36)
Easy to change cylinders. (No cylinder wedge to lose or screw up)
Solid one piece frame.
This is a very accurate well balanced revolver.
Agreed, and less open space for caps to fall in and bring everything to a halt.
Is this yours? It's beautiful!
The Starr's cylinder is recessed into the back of the frame. Ratcheting of the cylinder by the hand is done inside the frame, sort of speak. So spent pieces or solid caps that fall off pretty much can't jam up the action... I don't say it's impossible, but not as likely as the Remmy or the Colt. That is a beautiful example drm!
