My glock blew up

[hayday]

Thousands of competition shooters reload for the Glock including many of the top sponsored shooters in the world, all without incident for many years. Reloading issues for Glock are no more frequent than for any other brand, care must be taken regardless of brand or caliber. As stated earlier all brands warn not to use reloads, for 2 reasons, 1: to cover their ass and 2: to sell factory ammo.

FYI Read this link and many other references on the web where it is repeatedly stated that Glock intentionally has designed the gun with a loose chamber "to enhance reliability" - but the implication is that "you should not reload for these guns"

"It is often asserted that Glocks suffer catastrophic explosive failures (kbs, or kabooms) more often than do other guns. You can’t search long on the Internet before finding a picture or video of an exploded Glock. The question we must ask is what really failed? In nearly all cases of kabooms, the use of poorly reloaded and/or high-pressure ammunition is to blame. Glocks have a loose chamber that promotes feed reliability. As a result, they should not be used with reloads and definitely not with lead ammunition because lead ammo fouls the polygonal barrel and results in higher pressures."

As for your thousands of shooters, etc. if they are using a stock Glock barrel, I guess they just haven't won the "Glock Kaboom lottery" yet. If they have upgraded to a Lone Wolf barrel (as many do) They probably don't face the risk.

 

[mebiuspower]

Many competitors use aftermarket Glock barrels for better accuracy as well as for using reloads.

 

[xldbldbl]

As for your thousands of shooters, etc. if they are using a stock Glock barrel, I guess they just haven't won the "Glock Kaboom lottery" yet. If they have upgraded to a Lone Wolf barrel (as many do) They probably don't face the risk.

IPSC production shooters can not use aftermarket barrels, must use OEM parts only, and like I said earlier, even the sponsored team shooters use reloaded ammo.

 

[Sqr]

There exists manufacturers that will give a customer a goodwill warranty almoat regardless of circumstances, it's why I suggested he contact Glock about it on the first or second page of this thread.

Agreed but only at their discretion and are not obligated to do so.

 

[hayday]

IPSC production shooters can not use aftermarket barrels, must use OEM parts only, and like I said earlier, even the sponsored team shooters use reloaded ammo.

Kind'a funny considering that their sponsor, specifically says "do not use reloads in these guns".

Maybe they are reloading virgin brass. No risk there. The risk only comes with the second (or latter) firing and only if by "luck" the weakened area from the first firing (from the unsupported feed ramp) happens to line-up with the feed ramp position in the second, or other latter firing.

 

[xldbldbl]

Kind'a funny considering that their sponsor, specifically says "do not use reloads in these guns".

Maybe they are reloading virgin brass. No risk there. The risk only comes with the second (or latter) firing and only if by "luck" the weakened area from the first firing (from the unsupported feed ramp) happens to line-up with the feed ramp position in the second, or other latter firing.

Some maybe but I have seen some use Wolf reloaded ammo. Here is a few lines I copied and pasted from the Wolf website which makes me wonder if any of those police/security companies use Glock as well as the IPSC competitors.

* ALL BRASS CASINGS USED ARE COMMERCIAL, ONCE FIRED NON - MILITARY
* WE LOAD LEAD, JACKETED AND COPPER PLATED BULLETS
* WOLF BULLETS CLIENTS INCLUDE – PEEL REGIONAL POLICE – LEGISLATIVE SECURITY SERVICE - ONTARIO MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES - BANK OF CANADA - GARDA SECURITY SERVICE - FRONTIER SECURITY SERVICES - WILLIAMS ARMS – THE AMMO SOURCE – BULLSEYE SPORTS AND HUNDREDS OF SPORT SHOOTING ENTHUSIASTS
* WOLF AMMO VELOCITIES ARE DESIGNED AROUND IPSC REQUIREMENTS - WE LOAD FOR MANY TOP IPSC COMPETITORS

 

[rkm456]

Agreed but only at their discretion and are not obligated to do so.

I also agree. My point simply is just because they say "no reloads" doesn't mean there's no way they'll help him out. Time will tell.

 

[hayday]

You folks might want to do your own search on the web. Google "blown up Glocks":

 

[xldbldbl]

Search for blown up 1911, any other model or brand you will see much of the same. Most catastrophic failures due to reloaded ammo are caused by 1 of 2 things, either a squib that gets a second round put behind it, or, the most common issue, a double charge, which a lot of those pics you posted above seem to show.

 

[Kidd X]

A lot of duplicate pictures in your post heyday and I would bet 99% of those are with reloads, just like the vast majority of other blown up pistols are with reloads.

 

[DT741]

I dont like fat chicks, so I dont talk about them...

Hayday doesnt like Glocks, so he jumps in every threads there is on CGN with "Glock" in the title and talks about Glocks

 

[hayday]

I dont like fat chicks, so I dont talk about them...

Hayday doesnt like Glocks, so he jumps in every threads there is on CGN with "Glock" in the title and talks about Glocks

Guess you don't want to talk about this:

 

[DT741]

Ahahahhaa I was actually waiting for this picture to be posted

 

[hayday]

A lot of duplicate pictures in your post heyday and I would bet 99% of those are with reloads, just like the vast majority of other blown up pistols are with reloads.

I don't quite agree with you there. The blown case on the left doesn't even have a flattened primer! - NO signs of excess pressure at all - except for the blown out feed ramp.

Nope, that guy just won the old "Glock Kaboom Lottery", where the weakened area from an earlier firing (corresponding to the unsupported feed ramp area) managed to align with the feedramp again on a subsequent shooting.

The OP also got a winning ticket in this lottery. Next time maybe you can be a winner.

And who says I don't like Glocks? Just don't be near me when you shoot yours.

 

[heliace]

Guess you don't want to talk about this:

This is actually a new "hot blueing" technique...

 

[xldbldbl]

I don't quite agree with you there. The blown case on the left doesn't even have a flattened primer! - NO signs of excess pressure at all - except for the blown out feed ramp.

Nope, that guy just own the old "Glock Kaboom Lottery", where the weakened area from an earlier firing (corresponding to the unsupported feed ramp area) managed to align with the feedramp again on a subsequent shooting.

The OP also got a winning ticket in this lottery. Next time maybe you can be a winner.

And who says I don't like Glocks? Just don't be near me when you shoot yours.

Primer looks a bit mashed but I have seen several 45's over the years that had a double charge and those primers looked fairly normal as well. Open guns built for shooting 9mm major have compressed loads and the primers in that brass doesnt look any different than the primers in brass used in minor PF loads for production.

 

[PerfCenter]

Guess you don't want to talk about this:

Not sure what to think of it: Tow hooks or love handles?

 

[ChromeArty]

You folks might want to do your own search on the web. Google "blown up Glocks":

Yeah "they give me the creeps" Lol! Sorry man, you're never gonna live that down!

 

[hayday]

Primer looks a bit mashed but I have seen several 45's over the years that had a double charge and those primers looked fairly normal as well. Open guns built for shooting 9mm major have compressed loads and the primers in that brass doesnt look any different than the primers in brass used in minor PF loads for production.

I have never seen an overload where the primer looked "fairly normal". I have seen the reverse often - instances where primer are flat or even the head stamping on the case is flattened to the point that it can't be read and the gun doesn't blow - and the gun still holds up fine.

I am not particularly proud of this but many years ago I intentionally overloaded 9x19 in a Browning HP. I got so far with this, WITHOUT problems, that the ejected case where thrown miles from the gun and the primer pockets were enlarged so far that, on attempting to reload these, the new primers wouldn't stay in. The headstamps were unreadable AND THE GUN NEVER FAILED. The gun was completely unaffected.

To me, anyone who suggests that there is nothing wrong with a Glock failing - without even showing flatten primers - is really just making an excuse for the gun, which is not credible.

 

[xldbldbl]

I have never seen an overload where the primer looked "fairly normal". I have seen the reverse often - instances where primer are flat or even the head stamping on the case is flattened to the point that it can't be read and the gun doesn't blow - and the gun still holds up fine.

I am not particularly proud of this but many years ago I intentionally overloaded 9x19 in a Browning HP. I got so far with this, WITHOUT problems, that the ejected case where thrown miles from the gun and the primer pockets were enlarged so far that, on attempting to reload these, the new primers wouldn't stay in. The headstamps were unreadable AND THE GUN NEVER FAILED. The gun was completely unaffected.

To me, anyone who suggests that there is nothing wrong with a Glock failing - without even showing flatten primers - is really just making an excuse for the gun, which is not credible.

Every competitor that shoots 9mm major in an open gun is overloading a 9mm case, anyone shooting 9mm in production is specifically warned not to pick up 9mm rounds if they drop them for fear of getting one loaded for major as it will, without a doubt, blow up their gun. 9mm open guns are built to take that extreme pressure that regular 9mm guns are not. That being said, I have yet to see even one 9mm major case that has a flattened or distorted primer. Your theory is flawed.