Sale to the public of surplus Canadian Forces Browning pistols will be considered

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Sale to the public of surplus Canadian Forces Browning pistols will be considered, says DND

David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen
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Published on: January 19, 2017 | Last Updated: January 19, 2017 12:22 AM EST

Last week I had an article about the Canadian military looking to replace its Second World War-era handguns.

Replacing the 1940s-era Browning handguns has been on the Department of National Defence’s procurement list for years. But now the purchase of new guns appears to be moving ahead.

Still the Canadian Forces figures if the purchase is approved – and there are no delays – it won’t have the new pistols in hand and being used until the 2023-2026 period.

So what happens to the existing Canadian Forces general service pistol, the 9mm Browning Hi-Power?

The wear and tear on the Brownings have whittled numbers down to 13,981; of those 1,243 are in the process of disassembled for spare parts, in order to keep the other guns going until a replacement can be found.

It is unclear how many will be left by the 2023-2026 period when the new guns arrive. But there will certainly be some.

Readers have sent me emails wondering whether the Browning handguns might eventually be sold as surplus?

So I asked the Department of National Defence that question.

Here is what DND spokesman Evan Koronewski had to say:

“In order for the disposal action to take place for the Browning High Power pistols, they must first be declared surplus to the Department of National Defence requirements. This has not yet occurred. Therefore, the disposal plan for the Browning High Power pistols has not yet been developed and approved. The disposal plan will take into account the fact that the Browning High Power pistol is a restricted firearm, and various options, including possible sale to the public, will be considered.”
 
I say it will never happen . They will be cut up for scrap metal . Unless a right wing PC government get elected . Even then it's doubtful .
 
Like the U.S. surplus 1911, when they're put out to pasture, they're well beyond their due date. And the last thing they want is a weapon used for crime, being traced back to them.
 
pfbmgd said:
I say it will never happen . They will be cut up for scrap metal . Unless a right wing PC government get elected . Even then it's doubtful .
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I agree with you but there is no such thing as a PC federal party so I guess it's even more unlikely. The old PC party was almost as anti firearm as the Liberals and were complicit in implementing C68.
 
trebor2880 said:
Like the U.S. surplus 1911, when they're put out to pasture, they're well beyond their due date. And the last thing they want is a weapon used for crime, being traced back to them.
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There are already thousands of them out there in civilian hands from other disposals. That cat is already out of the bag and without any real issues for them to fall back on. In reality, it may even be a good precedent to use to get the last of them released for civilian ownership.
 
bearhunter said:
There are already thousands of them out there in civilian hands from other disposals. That cat is already out of the bag and without any real issues for them to fall back on. In reality, it may even be a good precedent to use to get the last of them released for civilian ownership.
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Didn't know that. Plus the gov't could always use another buck. And one not taken forcefully from us.
 
IIRC current law prevents them from selling them to the public, just like you cant reload brass etc you get from them.

Shawn
 
If they decide to replace them with Glock 17s, Glock may trade the old HPs for new 17s and the government may just need to add $100 per pistol. Why? Because Glock can turn around and sell us the old HPs for $200.

That's pocket change really.
 
If they are considering sale of the High Powers does this mean they'd consider sale of the SMLE's issued to the Rangers?
 
bearhunter said:
I agree with you but there is no such thing as a PC federal party so I guess it's even more unlikely. The old PC party was almost as anti firearm as the Liberals and were complicit in implementing C68.
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And then they changed their name to CPC. No other changes though.
 
Don't hold your breath on the future sale of any of these. This is directly from the policy on surplus military assets:

The sale of controlled military assets is subject to a wide variety of controls and regulations. Controlled goods are ordinarily sold to other nations and Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs). Under exceptional circumstances, however, the sale of controlled goods to industry may also be considered. These sales are subject to applicable policies and legislation, including but not limited to Controlled Goods Regulations (CGR) and the Surplus Crown Assets Act. Potential Canadian bidders must be registered under the Controlled Goods Program (CGP) of PWGSC.
 
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