CDX-R7 SHEEPDOG & SHEPHERD Actions and Strike Nuke micro-chassis

owlowl said:
Patrice, it makes perfect sense thank you for the detailed explanation, but this means that you catalog is misleading.

On page 16 of the new catalog at the bottom left it says "compatible with any Cadex chassis for R7 action" and it shows pictures of what appears to be light strike with top rail and folding stock and filed strike with top action rail. Yet we now know that neither folding stock nor top rail chassis are compatible.
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It seems like you are totally right. This will be fixed in the next 15 minutes. We're on it. It's difficult for us as the catalog is always sent 5-6 weeks ahead of ShotShow and sometimes the information on the new products from R&D is not always available at this time. Thanks for the hawk eye and sorry for the misleading information.

Best regards
 
I went to the website just to check MSRP of the sheepdog and it's one of the few products you don't list a starting MSRP for, I am just curious if it's in a ballpark of what i want to spend before bugging dealers. Second after what you said about the action not working with different chassis, will it work with the Competition fixed chassis as it doesn't have a folding stock or top rail? If so can it be ordered that way?

Thanks
 
Jayph said:
I went to the website just to check MSRP of the sheepdog and it's one of the few products you don't list a starting MSRP for, I am just curious if it's in a ballpark of what i want to spend before bugging dealers. Second after what you said about the action not working with different chassis, will it work with the Competition fixed chassis as it doesn't have a folding stock or top rail? If so can it be ordered that way?

Thanks
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We are still working on the website as there's a lot of new stuff.

The R7 Sheepdog (short action calibers) is 3899.95 $ MSRP (+268.95$ for the optional brake) Dealers may chose to retail at a different price (often lower).

The Field Competition is an Open Top model and as you mentioned it doesn't fold so the R7 action would be a drop in fit for any of the following models:


  • Field OT
    OT Core
    Field Competition

The following models would also work but if you already own one of these chassis for Rem700 you would need a new top rail (or top rail set) for the R7. Otherwise if you order a brand new chassis just specify that it's for a R7 action and we'll provide the right top rail set.


  • Field Tactical
    Tactical Core
    Field Strike
    Field Core

I hope it helps you to better understand otherwise just give me a call at: 514-821-7983

Best regards
 
Cadex Defence said:
It seems like you are totally right. This will be fixed in the next 15 minutes. We're on it. It's difficult for us as the catalog is always sent 5-6 weeks ahead of ShotShow and sometimes the information on the new products from R&D is not always available at this time. Thanks for the hawk eye and sorry for the misleading information.

Best regards
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This right here is what makes Cadex a fantastic manufacturer to work with as a dealer, and such an asset to our firearms community in Canada. Can't wait to try out the ergonomics of the strike nuke chassis myself.
 
Cadex Defence said:
We are still working on the website as there's a lot of new stuff.

The R7 Sheepdog (short action calibers) is 3899.95 $ MSRP (+268.95$ for the optional brake) Dealers may chose to retail at a different price (often lower).

The Field Competition is an Open Top model and as you mentioned it doesn't fold so the R7 action would be a drop in fit for any of the following models:


  • Field OT
    OT Core
    Field Competition

The following models would also work but if you already own one of these chassis for Rem700 you would need a new top rail (or top rail set) for the R7. Otherwise if you order a brand new chassis just specify that it's for a R7 action and we'll provide the right top rail set.


  • Field Tactical
    Tactical Core
    Field Strike
    Field Core

I hope it helps you to better understand otherwise just give me a call at: 514-821-7983

Best regards
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You have my attention, Thats only a few hundred off what I was figuring a semi modified Remington in a decent stock was going to cost me with still no guarantees it shoots. What would be the up charge cost to get a sheepdog in a Field Competition with skeleton stock?
 
jnewing said:
Will you guys be putting these on your site: https://cadexdefence.com/store/precision-rifles-and-accessories ?
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We've put some specs here for the weekend and we'll work on the website again next week: https://www.cadexdefence.com/products/cdx-precision-rifles/cdx-r7-sheepdog-shepherd-custom-actions/

Couple months ago I took the decision not to put the complete rifles on the Online Store as to me precision rifles deserves a high level of customer service to make sure the people get exactly what they need. To me a rifles shouldn't be sold online but face-to-face or over the phone in order to have a good conversation with the customer, confirm that he's legit and make sure what he's about to buy is what he truly needs (maybe a similar product would be better for him).

So I'm not sure yet if the actions will be available online or not. I always prefer when the people are contacting our dealers to purchase from them as it saves me the trouble to organize a deal with their local dealer. As I explained multiple times in the last few year, Cadex retails at more expensive than most Canadian stocking dealers so there's no advantage to try to go direct with us. I will surely tell you to contact one of the following dealers to save $$$: https://www.cadexdefence.com/find-a-dealer/

Please support your local dealers and spend the rest of your hardly earned money on bullet!

Have a great weekend.

Best regards
 
Jayph said:
You have my attention, Thats only a few hundred off what I was figuring a semi modified Remington in a decent stock was going to cost me with still no guarantees it shoots. What would be the up charge cost to get a sheepdog in a Field Competition with skeleton stock?
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All I can provide you is the combined MSRP for a Field Competition chassis for R7 Sheepdog, R7 Barreled action in one of our calibers (260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5X47 Lapua or 308 Win) with choice length of 20", 24" or 26", one 10 round magazine, one two-stage trigger with sefety and one sniper drag bag would be: 4251.75 $ (+268.95 $ for an optional muzzle brake).

Dealers may retail for cheaper https://www.cadexdefence.com/find-a-dealer/

Let me know if I could be of more help.

Best regards
 
JoKa said:
Dealers are refusin to budge
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I'm glad that you bring this point as over the past few months I've seen couple case of customers trying to start a war among dealers just to save 25$ more... This reply is not intended directly towards you but mostly towards customers in general so thanks for your comment.

Customers tend to believe that they can negotiate the price of the big items while big items are the ones that the dealers are making the less profit margins on. The normal overhead for a gun store is about 18% to 20%. This means that under this much profit margin they are actually paying to work... If the guy behind the counter doesn't make his job right and doesn't sell you some gun case, cleaning kit, ammo, scope mount, accessories, etc the truth is that at the end of the day the gun you've bought will barely allow them to break even with their overhead cost. Guns are very low in margins if the dealer wants to remain competitive with the big players so if you think that dealers are making lots of money on guns you are soooo wrong.

So if your are a loyal customer please remain fair to the dealers and accept to pay a fair price for an item. I'm not telling you to pay excessive price, but if you make two three call at the biggest dealers and see that the price is fairly similar please do not play games with them. Pick a dealer of your choice and encourage them.

Being a Canadian manufacturer doesn't provide us enough profit margin to give them more discounts due to our high production costs. If we'd move Cadex in Vermont,USA (45 minutes drive from here) we could drop our production costs about 15% to 20% but 83 Canadians would lose their job overnight. Cadex is Canadian and will remain Canadian as per our CEO deepest convictions.

For you it's just another toy, for our dealers its work. When you work you are paid, when they work they must be paid too, otherwise they'll have to close their doors fairly fast so it's normal that they don't give away their stuff especially when Cadex production is always 100% pre-sold since the last few years and that we never been able to build any overstock on guns or chassis.

Why would they give away their inventory that they will have problem to replenish after?

Thanks for your understanding and again this is a generic reply, its not pointing at you directly. It's just a great timing to explain few things from the manufacturer's point of view. Since I spent the last 10 years being a customer to a gun store manager to a Senior Sales Manager I understand the 3 point of views.

Respectfully

Best regards
 
Cadex Defence said:
I'm glad that you bring this point as over the past few months I've seen couple case of customers trying to start a war among dealers just to save 25$ more... This reply is not intended directly towards you but mostly towards customers in general so thanks for your comment.

Customers tend to believe that they can negotiate the price of the big items while big items are the ones that the dealers are making the less profit margins on. The normal overhead for a gun store is about 18% to 20%. This means that under this much profit margin they are actually paying to work... If the guy behind the counter doesn't make his job right and doesn't sell you some gun case, cleaning kit, ammo, scope mount, accessories, etc the truth is that at the end of the day the gun you've bought will barely allow them to break even with their overhead cost. Guns are very low in margins if the dealer wants to remain competitive with the big players so if you think that dealers are making lots of money on guns you are soooo wrong.

So if your are a loyal customer please remain fair to the dealers and accept to pay a fair price for an item. I'm not telling you to pay excessive price, but if you make two three call at the biggest dealers and see that the price is fairly similar please do not play games with them. Pick a dealer of your choice and encourage them.

Being a Canadian manufacturer doesn't provide us enough profit margin to give them more discounts due to our high production costs. If we'd move Cadex in Vermont,USA (45 minutes drive from here) we could drop our production costs about 15% to 20% but 83 Canadians would lose their job overnight. Cadex is Canadian and will remain Canadian as per our CEO deepest convictions.

For you it's just another toy, for our dealers its work. When you work you are paid, when they work they must be paid too, otherwise they'll have to close their doors fairly fast so it's normal that they don't give away their stuff especially when Cadex production is always 100% pre-sold since the last few years and that we never been able to build any overstock on guns or chassis.

Why would they give away their inventory that they will have problem to replenish after?

Thanks for your understanding and again this is a generic reply, its not pointing at you directly. It's just a great timing to explain few things from the manufacturer's point of view. Since I spent the last 10 years being a customer to a gun store manager to a Senior Sales Manager I understand the 3 point of views.

Respectfully

Best regards
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I like...will be placing an order!!
 
Cadex Defence said:
I'm glad that you bring this point as over the past few months I've seen couple case of customers trying to start a war among dealers just to save 25$ more... This reply is not intended directly towards you but mostly towards customers in general so thanks for your comment.

Customers tend to believe that they can negotiate the price of the big items while big items are the ones that the dealers are making the less profit margins on. The normal overhead for a gun store is about 18% to 20%. This means that under this much profit margin they are actually paying to work... If the guy behind the counter doesn't make his job right and doesn't sell you some gun case, cleaning kit, ammo, scope mount, accessories, etc the truth is that at the end of the day the gun you've bought will barely allow them to break even with their overhead cost. Guns are very low in margins if the dealer wants to remain competitive with the big players so if you think that dealers are making lots of money on guns you are soooo wrong.

So if your are a loyal customer please remain fair to the dealers and accept to pay a fair price for an item. I'm not telling you to pay excessive price, but if you make two three call at the biggest dealers and see that the price is fairly similar please do not play games with them. Pick a dealer of your choice and encourage them.

Being a Canadian manufacturer doesn't provide us enough profit margin to give them more discounts due to our high production costs. If we'd move Cadex in Vermont,USA (45 minutes drive from here) we could drop our production costs about 15% to 20% but 83 Canadians would lose their job overnight. Cadex is Canadian and will remain Canadian as per our CEO deepest convictions.

For you it's just another toy, for our dealers its work. When you work you are paid, when they work they must be paid too, otherwise they'll have to close their doors fairly fast so it's normal that they don't give away their stuff especially when Cadex production is always 100% pre-sold since the last few years and that we never been able to build any overstock on guns or chassis.

Why would they give away their inventory that they will have problem to replenish after?

Thanks for your understanding and again this is a generic reply, its not pointing at you directly. It's just a great timing to explain few things from the manufacturer's point of view. Since I spent the last 10 years being a customer to a gun store manager to a Senior Sales Manager I understand the 3 point of views.

Respectfully

Best regards
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I get it and respect the response.

Your original statement of "I can only provide you with MSRP see dealers for a firm price" just lead me to believe there was room to play.
 
Looking at your website, I see it lists different bolt faces are available, specifically B,C and D. I'm guessing .470", .540", .585"? Any chance of .384"?
Also, the different bolt knob styles, any chance of photos?
 
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