CDTSA - Milo Range CQB Clinic 29-30 April 2017 Debrief here...

Keep it comin folks let's show Barney the AB love that keeps him comin back for more hahaha ��

Hey, with all this Lieberal darlings surrounding me here in Ontario :cool: You guys are really playing with fire tempting me to move out West (home again...) and further away from Sunny ways and Unicorns. :eek:

My flight out west for the weekend is booked. I will be bringing spare earplugs for Buckaroo so that he can sleep in peace around my epic snoring! :nest:

Cheers all, :wave:

Barney
 
Janitor pants and aakoksal; You guys are both good to go for the Clinic....

Now is there a Boris who sent an EMT via Tangerine? Or is this notice one of those phishing phoney emails? :wave:

Cheers,
Barney
 
I'm wondering, in the quest to use cheap ammo for the shooting sports, has anyone used a 9mm carbine with there CQB setup like the CMMG MK9 T? Not that I have one, just curious as it uses pistol mags. That would be neat to see but I do no teh downside o fusing that type of rifle is recoil management.
 
I'm wondering, in the quest to use cheap ammo for the shooting sports, has anyone used a 9mm carbine with there CQB setup like the CMMG MK9 T? Not that I have one, just curious as it uses pistol mags. That would be neat to see but I do no teh downside o fusing that type of rifle is recoil management.

Yeah, I'd almost want to test out my PSA 9mm
 
Sorry about all those typos! I wasn't drunk typing this! Hahaha

What I meant to type was...

I'm wondering, in the quest to use cheap ammo for the shooting sports, has anyone used a 9mm carbine with their CQB setup like the CMMG MK9 T? Not that I have one, just curious as it uses pistol mags. That would be neat to see but I do know the downside of this is recoil management.
 
The only catch to using pistol caliber carbines, is in scoring (during a match). If you are using the same caliber for pistol/rifle, you loose the benefit of the doubt when it comes time to score. For example, if you are shooting 9mm and .223, it is possible that one of your pistol impacts may cover up a rifle impact (hole in the paper); allowing for the higher score value. Having said that, I plan to run a 9mm AR this year, as the ammo is much less expensive.

Hope this helps.

Adam
 
I also may have to think about using a 9mm PCC for this course. Might be fun just for the change in rifles. Then decide: use the AR 9mm or the Kriss 9mm ? Hmmmmmmm.
 
I also may have to think about using a 9mm PCC for this course. Might be fun just for the change in rifles. Then decide: use the AR 9mm or the Kriss 9mm ? Hmmmmmmm.

Sorry about all those typos! I wasn't drunk typing this! Hahaha

What I meant to type was...

I'm wondering, in the quest to use cheap ammo for the shooting sports, has anyone used a 9mm carbine with their CQB setup like the CMMG MK9 T? Not that I have one, just curious as it uses pistol mags. That would be neat to see but I do know the downside of this is recoil management.

My plan is to use my AR for day 1, and CZ-858 for day 2. Good to work on the skills for both, and bulk commercial non-corrosive x39 is still WAY cheaper than 5.56.

I might even switch pistols between days - Beretta day 1, Tok for day 2... Although I'm not 100% sure there. Don't have a good holster for the Tok.
 
That sounds like a cool plan.

Wish I had a the CZ 858, just have an SKS. I am using an NEA AR in 7.62x39 so hoping it holds up, lots of rumours that it may not be all that reliable but I have had it for almost 6 months and its been fine!

The Kriss vector would be also awesome to see.
 
I'll need to see how my Glock mags for the Kriss fit into my chest rig. If I can fit them AND my pistol mags all at once, I'll seriously consider bringing my Kriss. Maybe.
 
Two questions gear wise:

1. Why the single point sling and not a two point?
2. Does everyone use SBRs or are there some people using traditional rifles: 18"+ barrels.
 
Payment sent. I hope there's still some space left.

Yes, lots of space left. I have my only day off in one week today... I'm doing the EMT deposits today. This business of working 6 days a week is getting challenging.... :eek:

Now about those pistol caliber carbines... great fun. All super fun. But when you discover that your training could be maximized by shooting a .223 or 7.62 x 39 for a rifle and a pistol caliber (for transitions), you are gonna regret this training opportunity. Now if you happen to have a series of matches (and you do, btw) then that's the time to play and shoot for poops and giggles.

I'm quoting Keith and Linda of www dot milcun dot com Marksmanship Complex here, "Focus on Performance" and not on the hardware. You will see why.... especially those of you who are new to competition! :wave:


Cheers,
Barney
 
Two questions gear wise:

1. Why the single point sling and not a two point?
2. Does everyone use SBRs or are there some people using traditional rifles: 18"+ barrels.

Single point slings are cool, it helps my ego... :eek:

The reason we use single point sling(s) is its controllable and does not slide around like a 2 point, which really , really shifts and slides and gets in the way of your pistol handling and shooting during the transition. You will see for yourself. Someone always turns up with a 2 point sling because "That's what we were issued..."

All I can say is , "Bring it on..." :nest:

I was the Match Director and I'm right behind you giggling and laughing into the microphone :cool:

Now about them SBR... BECAUSE we CAN... And I'm no longer issued a rifle that's overly long and cumbersome and invented for the LR Rectangular, shoot off your elbows range. :nest:

We are paying for these firearms. Dial up the FUN factor and turn down the SUCK (Fubar movie series filmed in Alberta) !!!

Now I come from a 20" barrel shooting at Service Rifle matches alongside the soldiers shooting their C7A2's... they HAVE to use their issued rifles. Some bring along C8's since THAT is what they are issued.

I'm here to have fun so I shoot a 12" CQB barrel... my personal SR rig is a 14.5" NEA Barreled Colt... Go figure! :eek:

Have fun and keep training ....

Cheers,
Barney
 
2. Does everyone use SBRs or are there some people using traditional rifles: 18"+ barrels.
Last year I 'rocked' my 20" Dominion Arms on day 2. NOT fun when you're doing modified prone shooting.
I plan on shooting it again this year but I will be switching to the 14.5" rifle for modified prone this time.
Also am thinking about trying the 9 mm Alfa Proj 4.5" revolver as my sidearm for one of the days this year.
 
I'm bringing my X95, First Spear Siege R Optimized carrier and battle belt with a FDE 9mm VTAC M&P. Just order and have yet to receive them so I will not have much time to practice lol.
Going to be fun looking at everybody's rig's, get some good idea's and learn a lot. Can't wait!
 
Now about those pistol caliber carbines... great fun. All super fun. But when you discover that your training could be maximized by shooting a .223 or 7.62 x 39 for a rifle and a pistol caliber (for transitions), you are gonna regret this training opportunity. Now if you happen to have a series of matches (and you do, btw) then that's the time to play and shoot for poops and giggles.

Good advice Barney. No 9mm for the course this time. I've decided to use my 14.5" .223.
 
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