Mossberg Shockwave - Landing in Canada Soon?

Alright time to entice people........it's not a 500/590 but a Dominion Arms 12.5" setup to exceed the overall length requirements and I had a blast with it yesterday.

Sound quality not the best being inside the protective case + air filtration system running as well but you get the idea.

Dominion Arms Grizzly 12.5" 12 gauge 870 copy.
S&J +1 Magazine Extension.
S&J Rear Sling Plate.
Shockwave Raptor Grip.
Overall Length 26.75" as configured.


The rails on the MOE grip will chew your hand up without gloves on but I'm just going to remove them now and it will be all good for all high brass ammunition.
 
870P said:
I prefer a vertical style grip but of course there's no way to run one and still be at nonrestricted OAL with a 14" barrel.

In my experience a PGO pump presents no real issues other than the effective rate of fire being slower.
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You're right, I built my mossberg shorty and have a 6.5" Dlask 870, it obviously has a stock on it. I also have a birds head 1200 defender, been using that for a while and that one is quick, but Winchesters are pretty slick, the other ones, well the 870's fast but has a stock, the Mossberg's a bit slower, but not bad. Oh and anybody who tells you they don't work is full of $h!t. Or hasn't taken the time to properly train on one.
 
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870P said:
Anyway, who here has fired a PGO shotgun before?
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I've been playing with my Mossberg 590A1 Shockwave setup for about 10 months now...I am deadly accurate with slugs and buckshot out to about 10 yards, after which it becomes difficult for me to hit accurately as the short sight radius results in a high point-of-impact with my gun and it's difficult for me to gauge how much under-elevation is required.

I also spent quite a bit of time with it shotgun deer hunting last season, but as I was also trying to get it on video for my youtube channel and do the hunt spot/stalk, I could not get within 10 yards/get the camera setup/etc etc etc. I ran out of time and instead went for the video you do see on my channel with a 24 inch barrelled gun, a proper stock, and that cool hog-wild zinc .60 caliber duplex ball load. A Shockwave Deer is on project list to try again next year...and if I get lucky enough to score it will be with remington's reduced recoil 00 buck in the gun....I can't wait! :)

werewolf said:
Oh and anybody who tells you they don't work is full of $h!t. Or hasn't taken the time to properly train on one.
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I think it's important to keep in mind that the gun does have limitations over a standard stocked shotgun.

For example, I've had my shockwave ALOT out at the regulation skeet field I've set up out at the family farm. With a properly stocked shotgun with a standard length barrel, I can regularly put up 25 and I shoot at a Master Class level in the CNSCA version of registered sporting clays.

But not if I'm shooting the shockwave!

Using the shockwave for skeet I've pretty much mastered station 1 and station 7, I can hit about 40% from station 2 and 6, but station 3, 4 & 5 are complete write-offs...it's only a fluke bird I'll hit and it's certainly not repeatable for me yet. Station 8? It's just laughable. I would estimate I've probably tried about 15 complete skeet rounds this way and plan to practice a lot more this coming summer, just 'cause how cool would it be to be able to put up a 25 with the shockwave? If I ever tried to shoot sporting clays with it (not allowed at my local club), I think I'd be lucky to break 25% of the clays thrown, whereas I can easily put up scores north of 80% with a regular shotgun.

Re slugs, with a regular shotgun and a bead sight I am comfortable hunting with rifled slugs out to 100 yards. With my Shockwave I don't think I would be comfortable past 10 to 15 yards.

And with buckshot, it's REALLY REALLY easy to shoot over whatever it is your shooting at. Within 10 yards, no problem, but past that the un-elevation required becomes tricky.

I've practiced quite a bit with it, so I'm gonna go with the perspective that these guns have limitations by comparison to a regular gun. Pretty hard to beat the cool factor though!

Cheers, and to those who have these setups I hope you have as much fun with yours as I've had with mine!

Brobee
ps: maybe we should devise a Shockwave shooting league....:)
 
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Mossberg_590A1 said:
With comments like this, should anyone be surprised we're not allowed to own nice things?
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enefgee said:
Totally off topic - 870P - I just noticed your avatar - loved that movie, strange how it's rarely on TV these days.
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Yeah its my favorite '80s 'B' movie, and was my first real "red pill".

Anyway I hope to see birdshead grip shotgun offerings from other companies, especially Ithaca.
 
Brobee said:
I've been playing with my Mossberg 590A1 Shockwave setup for about 10 months now...I am deadly accurate with slugs and buckshot out to about 10 yards, after which it becomes difficult for me to hit accurately as the short sight radius results in a high point-of-impact with my gun and it's difficult for me to gauge how much under-elevation is required.

I also spent quite a bit of time with it shotgun deer hunting last season, but as I was also trying to get it on video for my youtube channel and do the hunt spot/stalk, I could not get within 10 yards/get the camera setup/etc etc etc. I ran out of time and instead went for the video you do see on my channel with a 24 inch barrelled gun, a proper stock, and that cool hog-wild zinc .60 caliber duplex ball load. A Shockwave Deer is on project list to try again next year...and if I get lucky enough to score it will be with remington's reduced recoil 00 buck in the gun....I can't wait! :)



I think it's important to keep in mind that the gun does have limitations over a standard stocked shotgun.

For example, I've had my shockwave ALOT out at the regulation skeet field I've set up out at the family farm. With a properly stocked shotgun with a standard length barrel, I can regularly put up 25 and I shoot at a Master Class level in the CNSCA version of registered sporting clays.

But not if I'm shooting the shockwave!

Using the shockwave for skeet I've pretty much mastered station 1 and station 7, I can hit about 40% from station 2 and 6, but station 3, 4 & 5 are complete write-offs...it's only a fluke bird I'll hit and it's certainly not repeatable for me yet. Station 8? It's just laughable. I would estimate I've probably tried about 15 complete skeet rounds this way and plan to practice a lot more this coming summer, just 'cause how cool would it be to be able to put up a 25 with the shockwave? If I ever tried to shoot sporting clays with it (not allowed at my local club), I think I'd be lucky to break 25% of the clays thrown, whereas I can easily put up scores north of 80% with a regular shotgun.

Re slugs, with a regular shotgun and a bead sight I am comfortable hunting with rifled slugs out to 100 yards. With my Shockwave I don't think I would be comfortable past 10 to 15 yards.

And with buckshot, it's REALLY REALLY easy to shoot over whatever it is your shooting at. Within 10 yards, no problem, but past that the un-elevation required becomes tricky.

I've practiced quite a bit with it, so I'm gonna go with the perspective that these guns have limitations by comparison to a regular gun. Pretty hard to beat the cool factor though!

Cheers, and to those who have these setups I hope you have as much fun with yours as I've had with mine!

Brobee
ps: maybe we should devise a Shockwave shooting league....:)
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Sounds like your ShockWave might be a candidate for a taller front sight Brobee.
 
The only thing the shockwave does better then the speedfeed is make the gun long enough to be over 26 inches. They should make a second generation shockwave with a bit more of an early birdshead shape to provide support when shooting using the push-pull technique..... specially for the Mossberg.

Here's some old clips shooting a short rem 870 with a speedfeed witness protection grip.....

Probably around 10 yards roughly from the hip....


Some clays thrown with a spring loaded launcher.....

 
Grove said:
High Brass loads really aren't too bad with these setups.......I haven't shot 3" out of this setup yet tho.
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They're not bad. I shot 00 and 2 3/4 slugs from a Raptor gripped 500 and it wasn't too bad, the shotgun had a brake on it though (Road Blocker). That Road Blocker was awesome, don't know why I sold it :(

500 Roadblocker 12G w/Shockwave Raptor Grip & Hogue forend
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farmer47 said:
to those of you who shoot slugs from these guns i tip my hat to you.
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There's not all that much to it physically, the first time I did it I was coming off a long period of illness and weighed only 130 lbs. Despite that, even shooting one handed with 3"ers wasn't uncomfortable. I'd say a magnum revolver with bear loads is much tougher to handle actually.
 
Brobee said:
I've been playing with my Mossberg 590A1 Shockwave setup for about 10 months now...I am deadly accurate with slugs and buckshot out to about 10 yards, after which it becomes difficult for me to hit accurately as the short sight radius results in a high point-of-impact with my gun and it's difficult for me to gauge how much under-elevation is required.

I also spent quite a bit of time with it shotgun deer hunting last season, but as I was also trying to get it on video for my youtube channel and do the hunt spot/stalk, I could not get within 10 yards/get the camera setup/etc etc etc. I ran out of time and instead went for the video you do see on my channel with a 24 inch barrelled gun, a proper stock, and that cool hog-wild zinc .60 caliber duplex ball load. A Shockwave Deer is on project list to try again next year...and if I get lucky enough to score it will be with remington's reduced recoil 00 buck in the gun....I can't wait! :)



I think it's important to keep in mind that the gun does have limitations over a standard stocked shotgun.

For example, I've had my shockwave ALOT out at the regulation skeet field I've set up out at the family farm. With a properly stocked shotgun with a standard length barrel, I can regularly put up 25 and I shoot at a Master Class level in the CNSCA version of registered sporting clays.

But not if I'm shooting the shockwave!

Using the shockwave for skeet I've pretty much mastered station 1 and station 7, I can hit about 40% from station 2 and 6, but station 3, 4 & 5 are complete write-offs...it's only a fluke bird I'll hit and it's certainly not repeatable for me yet. Station 8? It's just laughable. I would estimate I've probably tried about 15 complete skeet rounds this way and plan to practice a lot more this coming summer, just 'cause how cool would it be to be able to put up a 25 with the shockwave? If I ever tried to shoot sporting clays with it (not allowed at my local club), I think I'd be lucky to break 25% of the clays thrown, whereas I can easily put up scores north of 80% with a regular shotgun.

Re slugs, with a regular shotgun and a bead sight I am comfortable hunting with rifled slugs out to 100 yards. With my Shockwave I don't think I would be comfortable past 10 to 15 yards.

And with buckshot, it's REALLY REALLY easy to shoot over whatever it is your shooting at. Within 10 yards, no problem, but past that the un-elevation required becomes tricky.

I've practiced quite a bit with it, so I'm gonna go with the perspective that these guns have limitations by comparison to a regular gun. Pretty hard to beat the cool factor though!

Cheers, and to those who have these setups I hope you have as much fun with yours as I've had with mine!

Brobee
ps: maybe we should devise a Shockwave shooting league....:)
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All valid points, different job, different tools, I'd be in for a "Shockwave" Shooting league. :dancingbanana:
 
870P said:
There's not all that much to it physically, the first time I did it I was coming off a long period of illness and weighed only 130 lbs. Despite that, even shooting one handed with 3"ers wasn't uncomfortable. I'd say a magnum revolver with bear loads is much tougher to handle actually.
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Aiming with the heavy loads and not smacking yourself is the main challenge, that's where the push-pull technique works well. Push forward with the pump hand and pull back on the grip to create tension between both arms...... this seems to allow better recoil control with slugs.

The weight of the shotgun helps a bit compared to magnum revolvers, but most people specially in the 130 lb class don't seem to enjoy heavy loads....... even with a full stock.
 
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