Pricing of Mosins today

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So I'm thinking these are the prices you can sell a Mosin at today. To me the value is the sell price, not what you paid or would like to buy at, what you can sell at. Forget all matching cause I ain't seen a real one yet, I'm sure there are some...

200.00 for any 91/30 dated after 1930
300.oo for most ex-dragoons unless very old or Sestroryetsk
400 for am M38 or M44
400.00 for a M91 Tula, Izzy, NEW, maybe Remington, but don't know
500.00 for M91 Sestroryetsk, any dated pre 1910, maybe Remington,
+++ for any Finns

Any thoughts. Am I off, as I love buying them?
 
From what I've been seeing is hex 91/30s go for around $280-$320 and $180-$220 sounds about right for round receivers. This is just what I've observed recently in local shops, I'm not well educated on these.
 
M91s are going to fluctuate a fair bit depending on the year, manufacturer, condition, markings, originality, etc. For example a all matching original M91 is worth a pretty penny. A mix master Finnish Capture M91 which was heavily Finned (i.e. rear sight graduations changed, new Finnish split stock, etc.), is going to be worth a fair bit less. Generally speaking for a M91 likely the 350-600$ range is a good area to plan to spend in.
 
Sask Bearman said:
I wished I had bought a semi load when they were $ 30!
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I fully understand the sentiment butttttttt when the first Mosins started to appear from International, unlike most milsurps the Eastern Block nations that dumped them on the market released the dregs of what they had in storage. There were some very nice specimens but most of them went to where they would bring better money, in the US.

There were a bunch of Remington/NEW rifles that were released onto the surplus markets between the WWs that were still unissued. Many were sold off by the US government through the CMP and many went offshore to Finland and other nations. Way more history than I'm giving here. I am lucky enough to have one of those rifles that I was told came from Bannerman's. That's the story and thank goodness the fellow that sold me that rifle hadn't shot it. It traveled across Canada a few times and collected some dings doing so but it's a great piece to remember my old friend. He was going to convert it to a 45/70.

Mosins are great rifles and the cartridges they used were very capable back in the day and still are today for everything from battle situations to hunting.

OP, your prices are definitely in the ball park. Five years from now, if we can keep the Liberals at bay those prices will seem cheap.
 
If Russia closes the door.
Otherwise there are still thousands and thousands (X100) in the arsenals, they now sell the PU scopes apart because they are easier to take out.
Just bought one (PUscope)that should come from near Mongolia.
 
Laminate versus wood stocks can demand a small premium as well. I've seen parts rifles and barreled receivers around $99 so the platform can be very inexpensive to expand on.

There's also Refurb and non Refurb snipers models
 
Peteroliver1234 said:
So I'm thinking these are the prices you can sell a Mosin at today. To me the value is the sell price, not what you paid or would like to buy at, what you can sell at. Forget all matching cause I ain't seen a real one yet, I'm sure there are some...

200.00 for any 91/30 dated after 1930
300.oo for most ex-dragoons unless very old or Sestroryetsk
400 for am M38 or M44
400.00 for a M91 Tula, Izzy, NEW, maybe Remington, but don't know
500.00 for M91 Sestroryetsk, any dated pre 1910, maybe Remington,
+++ for any Finns

Any thoughts. Am I off, as I love buying them?
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This can be a real can of worms. Average, off the shelf, mixmaster M91/30 rifles that have been FTRed will fetch $200 - $225 depending on whether accessories such as sling, cleaning kits, bayonets are included.

The same rifle with matching numbers, again depending on whether accessories are included will bring $300 depending on manufacturer but not less than $275, unless you can find a private sale. Then on top of those prices you have to add sales tax and in some cases shipping.
 
Peteroliver1234 said:
So I'm thinking these are the prices you can sell a Mosin at today. To me the value is the sell price, not what you paid or would like to buy at, what you can sell at. Forget all matching cause I ain't seen a real one yet, I'm sure there are some...

200.00 for any 91/30 dated after 1930
300.oo for most ex-dragoons unless very old or Sestroryetsk
400 for am M38 or M44
400.00 for a M91 Tula, Izzy, NEW, maybe Remington, but don't know
500.00 for M91 Sestroryetsk, any dated pre 1910, maybe Remington,
+++ for any Finns

Any thoughts. Am I off, as I love buying them?
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My opinion as a mosin collector at the market rate these days:

For starters, all the $200 mosin dealers are sold out of anything decent. Most places are charging $225+ now. Also, the 1930 date means NOTHING. There is a thought out there among some that dragoon production ended in 1930. Not true. Dargoons were phased out slowly from 1930 to 1933, with fewer dragoon features appearing toward the end. Some pure dragoons are found dated 1932, so non-transitional dragoons were made in ever smaller numbers for at least 3 production years.

Hex receivers continued in use until mid-1936 and generally there is no observed price difference between, say, a 1935 made 91/30 and a 1930 made 91/30. The earlier the receiver date, if the rifle is in nice shape, there can be a slight premium. Some markings like Cossak marked refurb 91/30's can command a substantial premium.

M44's are interesting, everyone is asking $450+, but I don't see russian M44's actually selling for much over $350. Average M38's are about the same, but M91/38's are selling $650-700 and non-russian M44's are selling in that range as well (for example, unissued polish M44's). M38's with as-new bores are also selling for a premium, around $450-500.

M91's are all over the map. For reasons I can't explain, we have a glut of new england westinghouse finn M91's in Canada and they seem to bring $300-350. Tikka and VKT M91's are selling for around $350-400. About the same for Remington finns or early Russian M91's that are finn capture marked. There are LOTS of these somewhat common M91's listed on the EE for $600-650 that keep being bumped and bumped, they don't sell. I guess they see a rarer M91 sell for that and think they have gold when they really don't (?). The rarer M91's: Chat, Sestroretsk, and M24'3 are selling for $600+. Depends what it is.

As for actual finnish models (M27,28,28-30,39, etc.) This is a whole other subject. Think $800 and up.
 
I have an interesting rifle, it's a Westinghouse M91 with an SA Mark on the left side of the barrel dated 1915. Has Finnish stock. Covered in cosmoline, good to good + bore, however it is counterbored. Any thoughts to what that might be worth?
 
I see TradeEx just got in some 91/30's with a side-folding bayonet. There's something you don't see every day!

If it wasn't for a self-imposed ban on buying any more firearms in the near-term, I'd be very much tempted to add another member to the Russian family!
 
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