7.62x39 Ammo prices will go up again.

westrifle_sks said:
Guys I put a thread out there to warn you. First of all I am importer and I see prices what is offered to me and other dealers in Canada. If I want to prove someone wrong I would do it in a few hours. Pick out any 3 dealers out there and I will call them and get their statement that sks prices went up and Ammo went up.
Please non believer of sks prices went up post three dealers.

Al
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I'm not sure why you're trying to prove anything. As a business owner you need to have thick skin.
 
hunterhenderson said:
The sky is falling........the sky is falling

First it was sks prices going up, and they went down, now its ammo............we are on to you
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Where ? Again people why you are arguing and trying to say that we blow this out of proportion. SKS prices went up. Yes some dealer still have them at lower prices, but there is always supply and demand rule. Supply is low and prices go up. Very simple.
Same with ammunition.
Good that you are onto us maybe some of you will listen and react to price increase. You see it at $240 buy it.
As other member said local shop increased their prices, wonder why? Simple they do order from supplier and supplier increase prices . Shop owner see the increase and increase their prices too. It is a business to them you do understand it.

I would like to know where prices are going down. Please PM me or put it here.
Wars in the world, USD/CAD exchange rate, Availability of this product.
And please do not give me that " There so much was made " AND SO MUCH SOLD AND USED.
I do not see Garands for $100 or $200 but yet there was so much was made..... and shipped to other countries.
 
4n2t0 said:
I'm not sure why you're trying to prove anything. As a business owner you need to have thick skin.
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Thank you you got the point. I am going to stop arguing and time will show.
I do not think anyone will say that they wrong, it takes a lot to be a man(or woman :) ) so I am foreseeing that they will not say anything.
 
bobdbldr said:
Naa, we hoard anyways!!;) the price of the ammo and firearms ( except for the odd collector) will be determined by market and competing rifle systems! For the average shooter the attraction to the sks is cheap ammo/ cheap gun, or should I say inexpensive. When the price rises close to even with other similar firearms and ammo, the demand will drop till some equilibrium is met!
A brand new S&W AR15 can be had now for $700. The ammo is around $.45 - $.50 a round and is reloadable.
The sks isn't restricted, yet, so has that going for it!
How many folks here would still buy the sks if say a nice blued copy was $500 and ammo was $450./1200 steel cased. Or would you get the $700. AR15 and ammo @ $500./1000 brass cased?
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^^ This guy gets it. There's no way the price of SKS/x39 goes beyond the price of AR15/223. That puts a ceiling on SKS/x39 prices.
 
Westrifle is one of only a half dozen places that gets rifles direct from the source and is one of very few in the know. He is saying the exact same thing that everyone other direct importer has. A good friend of mine who direct imports told me last week that their last offer for SKS rifles was $179.00 US per rifle his cost FOB Europe. Do the math, it is no game.

For those who think prices are going to creep up over the next 2 years, you are only partially right. There is a better chance right now of the rifles going the way of the SVT 40 and the K31, all of a sudden just gone. We never thought the say would come when our only source for SVTs is buying them from customers who bring them in the store. 2 years ago we would buy as many as we wanted for a quarter of the price we pay now. K31s? No one even has any they want to trade.


Its like this. There may be lots of bread on the shelves, and more coming on the delivery truck, so everything seems the same. But right about now, the flower plant has used up the last of the Wheat, and there is no more growing. What do you think will happen?

Surplus guns and ammo do not grow in fields. And when you have 2 major wars going in the the world, the Governments to who keep the parties fighting are always willing to pay more for what little surplus is left.

You can call it what ever you want, but just stick around for 6-12 months and then go re-read these threads.
 
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Frontier Firearms said:
Westrifle is one of only a half dozen places that gets rifles direct from the source and is one of very few in the know. He is saying the exact same thing that everyone other direct importer has. A good friend of mine who direct imports told me last week that their last offer for SKS rifles was $179.00 US per rifle his cost FOB Europe. Do the math, it is no game.

For those who think prices are going to creep up over the next 2 years, you are only partially right. There is a better chance right now of the rifles going the way of the SVT 40 and the K31, all of a sudden just gone. We never thought the say would come when our only source for SVTs is buying them from customers who bring them in the store. 2 years ago we would buy as many as we wanted for a quarter of the price we pay now. K31s? No one even has any they want to trade.


Its like this. There may be lots of bread on the shelves, and more coming on the delivery truck, so everything seems the same. But right about now, the flower plant has used up the last of the Wheat, and there is no more growing. What do you think will happen?

Surplus guns and ammo do not grow in fields. And when you have 2 major wars going in the the world, the Governments to who keep the parties fighting are always willing to pay more for what little surplus is left.

You can call it what ever you want, but just stick around for 6-12 months and then go re-read these threads.
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Or go read threads from a year ago calling for an endless increase in prices of ARs.
 
Or go read threads from a year ago calling for an endless increase in prices of ARs.
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ARs are made new in factories for the sporting market, supplies can be increased when ever they want. Surplus is left over from 60 years ago with both the sporting and governments competing for whats left. See the difference?
 
Wow, the community here is really not the best. I mean for such a small number of us in Canada division can't be good for us. Ammo shortages and price increases is literally a main stay in the firearm industry...in the States ammo follows the same path...production reduction, followed by price increases on remaining stock te. Overproduction and price drop...prices never return to "home". Just feel like we could keep the conversations constructive..like all price match industry it helps to show what we are paying from other importers so they can go back and challenge the prices different importers pay. Yay capitalism!!
 
Conscript said:
Says the guy who said SKS prices will be jacking up when they've remained the same, and gone lower since?

We've heard enough of your bullcrap.
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ballsy post in the dealers forum. Time to prove you are right or apologize. Simple task.
 
Frontier Firearms said:
ARs are made new in factories for the sporting market, supplies can be increased when ever they want. Surplus is left over from 60 years ago with both the sporting and governments competing for whats left. See the difference?
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Good point, do you think the sks price can get above a basic AR and still maintain the volume of sales, or would it be more for collectors etc.?
 
Arkangell said:
Wow, the community here is really not the best. I mean for such a small number of us in Canada division can't be good for us. Ammo shortages and price increases is literally a main stay in the firearm industry...in the States ammo follows the same path...production reduction, followed by price increases on remaining stock te. Overproduction and price drop...prices never return to "home". Just feel like we could keep the conversations constructive..like all price match industry it helps to show what we are paying from other importers so they can go back and challenge the prices different importers pay. Yay capitalism!!
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Great community, minus a few posters without a filter. Westrifle actually allows comment for and against them as long as they are civil and have merit, my local CTC still has sks on for $199. These are mostly birch stock refurbs with the very odd non refurb thrown in, they are North Sylva imports so the mags don't match most of the time and the Cosmo is washed off so the odd trigger spring is rusted etc. Those will be going to $250. This year when he runs out of old stock and then higher again later on. The manager has said the prices are already up and will be again soon, his super duper grade is $350 and although they are all matching, they are mostly non refurb but well used, lots of wear on the blueing. If you want a nice sks, Westrifle has them, $50 one way or the other won't matter in a year or two!
 
Frontier Firearms said:
ARs are made new in factories for the sporting market, supplies can be increased when ever they want. Surplus is left over from 60 years ago with both the sporting and governments competing for whats left. See the difference?
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Yes, of course. But the main selling point of an SKS is its low price. If that goes (most likely due to scarcity), then the demand will go too. And if it doesn't, then someone will start production. After all, the reason nobody makes new SKS anymore is because its retail/govt price is too low to turn a profit. In any case, I really don't see anyone going for an SKS over an AR if they're the same price, so AR prices affect SKS prices, regardless of other dynamic.

My point was mostly that predictions are just as often dead wrong as they are dead right. A year ago, everyone (producers, distributors, retailers, end-users) predicted a meteoric rise in prices for ARs and the opposite happened. Meanwhile, prices of cheap norinco handguns have climbed 33% yoy. Some people stocked bricks of 22lr during the 22lr-drought, which they paid a fortune for because they thought that price and availability would get even worse. Now production has ramped up, availability isn't a problem, and prices have started to pull back a bit even in the face of our low canadian peso.

Predicting future prices is kind of fool's game. I'll leave that to wall street analysts.
 
shthousebenny said:
Cobourg Canadian Tire has lots of SKSs in Hardwood Stock starting @ $219 and Laminates for $239.No shortage if you want to look.
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Cobourg CT also had "Supergrade" (according to there opinion anyways) for $319.95. They also had a caged skid of ammo crates sitting out in the aisle before there glass cabinets. I think they were 1600rds for $379.00. There stuff comes from North Silva.
 
I could get an SKS for $169 two years ago, what do they cost now? Convert that into a % increase in price...

Conscript said:
Says the guy who said SKS prices will be jacking up when they've remained the same, and gone lower since?

We've heard enough of your bullcrap.
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