is .40 dead?

If 9mm is gaining popularity because it is ballistically improving, am I to assume that the pressures and speeds are going up? If so, loading cast bullets will not see the same improvement - there are limits.

45 acp is great for cast lead loading - seldom leading up - so 9mm might be a gun for jacketed loads and .45 will be the best for cast loads. It could be argued ( that's what we do best ) that .40 can do both better, but I would expect that the division of loss from .40 will follow that line - jacket shooters going 9mm and cast shooters to .45.

Anyone who sponges bullets from (cough) a workplace, will go 9mm - because.

Anyone who gets brass from ranges will go to 9mm also.

Anyone who shoots and reloads .45 - well - we never need new cases because they are big enough to find and last forever - almost.
 
I would like .40 S&W if it was labelled 10mm Kurz. Looks cooler on slides and brass. I don't think it's going away, though. Not in IPSC, at least.
 
It is just too costly to shoot these days... 1000 9mm can be bought for $300, .40 will be at least $400. I like .40, but while 9mm is at 25% discount, I'll just shoot that.
 
guess_kto said:
It is just too costly to shoot these days... 1000 9mm can be bought for $300, .40 will be at least $400. I like .40, but while 9mm is at 25% discount, I'll just shoot that.
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I don't pay 400 for 1000 rounds.. Hell I pay less then 9mm.

Then again I reload..

So the question should be those that buy factory and don't reload are they Idiots?
 
leosnipes said:
But if you also reload 9mm the cost is lower than reload .40SW right?
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Only difference between the two is the Projectiles. They virtually use the same amount of powder.

1000 Bullets of 124gr 9mm are $90 and 1000 bullets of 180gr are $115, I can shoot lighter weight and it will be even close to 9mm. 147Gr 9mm is $105.

I have the option of shooting minor and or major depending on loads in USPSA, IPSC and IDPA. Can you do that with 9mm? (with out going open)

I can also take my 40 sw bullets and load 10mm if I want.
 
anchor3593 said:
If 9mm is gaining popularity because it is ballistically improving, am I to assume that the pressures and speeds are going up? If so, loading cast bullets will not see the same improvement - there are limits.

45 acp is great for cast lead loading - seldom leading up - so 9mm might be a gun for jacketed loads and .45 will be the best for cast loads. It could be argued ( that's what we do best ) that .40 can do both better, but I would expect that the division of loss from .40 will follow that line - jacket shooters going 9mm and cast shooters to .45.

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9MM rise in popularity has nothing to do with increased pressures. Defensive bullet design, cartridge/training costs are the two major factors IMHO.

I have been shooting lead in my 9MM for the past 30 years with no leading using wheel weight alloy. There is no need to avoid lead bullets in the 9MM. Even Glock owners have been known to shoot lead in their guns. My Tanfoglio with polygonal rifling has never leaded using lead cast bullets. I also shoot lead bullets in my 40 cal and of course my 45 acp.

For civilian use in Canada , for those who shoot competitively the choice of sports, and the divisions they choose to shoot dictate for the most part the caliber of choice. The 38spl, 9MM and 45acp dominate IDPA for that reason.

Take Care

Bob
 
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