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SuperCub said:
True that ...... Better keep'em both.
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Due to a recent job loss, I have decided to downsize the herd...... not out of necccesity, but out of realizing I had a lot of stuff I wasn't using.... including rifles..... the .358 and the Roberts have survived the cut without hesitation as did a few others......

I expect to be "back in black" this week, and will be doing some rebuilding but it will be less quantity and more quality.... it's actually kind of liberating....

FYI, the canam outlander survived the cut..... great recommendation..... took my oldest to my secret back woods fishing hole with it today.....
 
I've been gently slicing the herd here as well.
Almost gartzs a nooo-shun to sell them two CT 70's.
Wifie says nay nay, but she has no say.
Can't see me running behind grand kids trying to lern tuh ride.
Some qwick math tells me I'd be ne'er seventy years old chasing them
wee folk.
Problem izz...........no grandkids yet.
 
kamlooky said:
I've been gently slicing the herd here as well.
Almost gartzs a nooo-shun to sell them two CT 70's.
Wifie says nay nay, but she has no say.
Can't see me running behind grand kids trying to lern tuh ride.
Some qwick math tells me I'd be ne'er seventy years old chasing them
wee folk.
Problem izz...........no grandkids yet.
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I would pay to see you on a CT70....
 
Superbrad said:
While I enjoyed the others, I am thinking the current one is here to stay..... I had been seeking one out for a while and it came from the esteemed hoytcanon collection.......

It's a pretty rare Ruger M77 RS carbine in .358 win...... I have shot it at the range and haven't hunted it yet, but it's super light, handy and fits me like a glove.....

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Love the 35's. I have an all weather Ruger Hawkeye in 358 and its shoots lights out with cast bullets all the way up to 310 grain Thumpers

Brad...what is the twist rate on that rifle of yours? Very nice looking rifle. Thanks for sharing
 
Picked up a beautiful mint Browning BLR stainless takedown in .358 Winchester off another member here on the exchange for a great deal price. Lucked out with the boys at Prophet River stocking Hornady ammo, although i'm set up to reload now, it's nice to have the factory availability.
I must say, this is my favourite lever round to use, and will be my go-to for this year's fall hunt.
 
I have a BLR Lightweight in 358 and I love it. Bought it new after foolishly selling a BLR 81 in the same caliber 20 years ago and kicked myself everyday since. They point and balance well imo.
 
nice choice of pill Slamfire and cool little Rifle, 310 grain is a lot of Grain for that little case but 2100 fps isn't much to sneeze at, comparing to a 375BB I wonder why it really didn't take off man!

250 -300 grain of .375 diameter , running around 2100FPS give or take, in a handy Model 94...... Was it the Top eject which sealed its fate...

I'd love to lend you my 94 .375bb for a weekend on the Moose! I think it would be real difficult to tell the difference!

PS- where did the animal wear the bullet?
Cheers mate, warm barrels.
 
AntekPL said:
Picked up a beautiful mint Browning BLR stainless takedown in .358 Winchester off another member here on the exchange for a great deal price. Lucked out with the boys at Prophet River stocking Hornady ammo, although i'm set up to reload now, it's nice to have the factory availability.
I must say, this is my favourite lever round to use, and will be my go-to for this year's fall hunt.
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Sounds good there Ant, keen too hear how you get on this fall.

I was thinking, the guy with too much money who wants the 35 Cal, the 35 x 62 :D :D now that's something.. but I guess a Ackley improved Whelen is The Same

WL
 
WhelanLad said:
nice choice of pill Slamfire and cool little Rifle, 310 grain is a lot of Grain for that little case but 2100 fps isn't much to sneeze at, comparing to a 375BB I wonder why it really didn't take off man!

250 -300 grain of .375 diameter , running around 2100FPS give or take, in a handy Model 94...... Was it the Top eject which sealed its fate...

I'd love to lend you my 94 .375bb for a weekend on the Moose! I think it would be real difficult to tell the difference!

PS- where did the animal wear the bullet?
Cheers mate, warm barrels.
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Barnes Reloading Manual lists case capacity of the 375BB as 48.6 grains of water vs. 57.6 grs for the 358 Winchester. Plus the 358 Winchester operates at higher pressure than the 375BB.

In the Barnes data, top MV for a 255gr bullet is 1914 fps from the 375BB. Top MV for a 250gr bullet is 2415 fps (26" barrel) from the 358 Winchester which therefore has a considerable ballistic advantage especially with spitzer bullets.

It was a front quartering shot through the lower chest then a broadside shot through the shoulders that dropped it. No recovered bullets because both shot clear through.
 
Slamfire said:
Barnes Reloading Manual lists case capacity of the 375BB as 48.6 grains of water vs. 57.6 grs for the 358 Winchester. Plus the 358 Winchester operates at higher pressure than the 375BB.

In the Barnes data, top MV for a 255gr bullet is 1914 fps from the 375BB. Top MV for a 250gr bullet is 2415 fps (26" barrel) from the 358 Winchester which therefore has a considerable ballistic advantage especially with spitzer bullets.

It was a front quartering shot through the lower chest then a broadside shot through the shoulders that dropped it. No recovered bullets because both shot clear through.
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But now your not comparing apples to apples...... Case capacity, an your using a bullet that takes up 1/4 of the case..... Speed with a 310gr was 2100 I think you said, a 220 factory is 2100 from a 375BB, like I didn't cme down in the last drop of rain, I do understand theres Paper figures that differ but Again the point was around how there would be NO difference between that case you use with its restricted capacity and the case I use with asmuch powder as you can stoke into it... specially on an animal likethat wee Moose you shoot...
an it was that I wondered why such Round didn't take off, but of course as you mention, 300 feet difference.... cos speed is everything aint it.

but then hey.... we iz on the intrawebz aftherallz I need not speek of hair splitten arguementzz

WL


edit- I cant believe you quoted a 20 inch tube V a 26 inch tube....
 
WhelanLad said:
But now your not comparing apples to apples...

...the point was around how there would be NO difference between that case you use with its restricted capacity and the case I use with as much powder as you can stoke into it... specially on an animal like that wee Moose you shoot...

WL

edit- I cant believe you quoted a 20 inch tube V a 26 inch tube....
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Barnes Reloading Manual No.1, for whatever reason, lists load data using a 26" barrel for the 358 Winchester. Muzzle speeds would be reduced for shorter barrels, say by about 100 fps for a 20" barrel.

Load data for the 375 Winchester in Barnes Reloading Manual No.3 was developed using a 20" barrel '94 Big Bore rifle. Top muzzle speed for a 255gr bullet is listed as 1914 fps using 36.0 gr of H322. A bit better muzzle speed than that is entirely possible depending on what your particular rifle can safely handle.

For comparison, I get 2300 fps with a 250gr bullet from my 20" barrel 358 Winchester BLR with ~50 gr of powder so it has up to 40% more case capacity than the 375 Winchester.

Differences in killing power? The 375 has only about 10% more cross-sectional area to tear a bigger hole than the 358, but at 100 yards for example the 358 using
a spitzer bullet has about 50% more energy than the 375. :eek:



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