Glock Gen 5??

Still not seeing a firm answer on polygonal vs conventional rifling.

17 g5 :

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I know that MAC had the Glock 17M and claimed it was conventional (not polygonal) rifling. And that some or all of the features of the 17M are now appearing in the Gen 5. Has Glock confirmed the rifling will be the same for the Gen 5?
 
Also certified armorer for Glock, i shot a 17M and from the info I got and seen, here is what i know:

While i can't confirm its polygonal or standard rifling, i know they change the twist. I heard from reliable source that they where able to hit man size target at 100m with ease.

The finger groove where put on to ameliorate the grip on the pistol. Early Glock model had smoother texture and it was one of the major flaw of the gun. Thats why stipling is so popular. Glock put finger groove to alleviate the problem. With the new Gen4 rougher texture, finger groove are not needed, also, FBI contract did not want them. While finger groove might have help on grip, big finger people hated them.

I do not know about the specifiec of the new finish, but its suppose to be better, time will tell

Flare mag well, thats cool.

Magazine have a orange follower and a longer floor plate that extent outward of the magazine body. (probably FBI contract demands)

Rounded slide for reholstering

Some of the biggest change are internaly and won't change that much for the shooter, its more for easier production. The slide stop lever (slide release), firing pin safety and slide lock (disassembly lever in front of the trigger guard) all use the same spring. Like in the G43 and G42, The firing pin safety is not cylindrical anymore, its more of a Trapezoidal Prism with a flatter contact with the firing pin. Also like the 43 and 42, the firing pin as change shape, instead of being "axe" like, its a mix between a cylinder and a axe. Its hard to explain, but if you search G42 firing pin in google you'll see it.

So thats about what i know.
 
The new stuff looks like (dirty) shallow land/groove to me. Polygonal rifling is basically narrow round lands in a tight bore.

The new rifling photo shows 6 lands, the poly rifling is 8, I think.
 
I guess there's different profiles polygonal rifling as on my Jericho 941 the polygonal rifling has no corners of any type :)
 
The new stuff looks like (dirty) shallow land/groove to me. Polygonal rifling is basically narrow round lands in a tight bore. The new rifling photo shows 6 lands, the poly rifling is 8, I think.

I understood the 45 cal was octagonal, while the remainder was hexagonal (among Glocks till now).
 
Th picture from MAC is not clear enough and the dirt i just blurring everything, Glock "polygonal" are more rounded up lands than the HK twisted hexagon.
 
just as reference here's the Jericho's barrel, interestingly enough looks like hexagonal from the chamber end, but there's no sharp edged grooves for sure :

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and from the front :

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... I could have taken better pics maybe ... :) next time
 
Worlds best selling pistol they have done something right...

gadget

Update your info, it seems glock is far from top selling in US now :

"
Gun Genius (powered by GunBroker) has listed the top-selling firearms for March 2017. See what made the list of most popular handguns.

Semi-Automatic Pistols

1. Smith & Wesson M&P Shield



2. Springfield XD-S


3. Ruger LCP


4. SIG Sauer P938


5. Glock G19
"
 
Update your info, it seems glock is far from top selling in US now :

"
Gun Genius (powered by GunBroker) has listed the top-selling firearms for March 2017. See what made the list of most popular handguns.

Semi-Automatic Pistols

1. Smith & Wesson M&P Shield



2. Springfield XD-S


3. Ruger LCP


4. SIG Sauer P938


5. Glock G19
"

If those stats are generated by Gun Broker they'd be for civilian sales and only in America. Those numbers may or may not include used guns. Mil and LEO tend to buy in rather large quantities. Those are also only individual models, not numbers right across the manufacturer.
 
If those stats are generated by Gun Broker they'd be for civilian sales and only in America. Those numbers may or may not include used guns. Mil and LEO tend to buy in rather large quantities. Those are also only individual models, not numbers right across the manufacturer.

true, but used guns are not really an indication of sustainability of a firearms manufacturer.

it also shows that without the comfort of big govt and military contracts, Glock is not the most valued by average new gun buyers.

Their failing sales and income are also suggested by the rush to release Gen 5 of pretty much same thing.
 
If those stats are generated by Gun Broker they'd be for civilian sales and only in America. Those numbers may or may not include used guns. Mil and LEO tend to buy in rather large quantities. Those are also only individual models, not numbers right across the manufacturer.

They're also all carry guns.
 
true, but used guns are not really an indication of sustainability of a firearms manufacturer.

I agree, and gun broker deals heavily in used firearms. Their stats will always be heavily influenced by the used, CCW purchaser.
 
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