so that's how you do it eh lol.
Finally happened to me. .. trail cam stolen
- Thread starter cath8r
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so that's how you do it eh lol.
Trimmer 905
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A friend is a wildlife biologist who was doing Black Bear den surveys for OMNRF. In two dens,she found trail cams all chewed up. She thinks Bears are attracted to the human scent on them. Moral of the story is to keep them clean and wear gloves when setting them up.
Don't forget there's a huge anti-hunting population out there that do stuff just to hinder the sport. They can be found smoking weed and protesting people's "rights and freedoms" downtown Toronto at any given time.....as long as they agree with those ideas.
I think it has something do with the flash. The ir messes with them.
They make flashing ir lights to put on top of bee hives that keeps bears away....it messes them up somehow and they don't like it so a single flash may just irritate them.
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- Durham Region
Very true. Though they would still sell it to subsidize the EI payments.. or the bus fare back.. lol
ITB
Canada tail
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well said
Rayleigh_Scattering
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- Under the arch
Q: How does this compare to the more urban environment I see when I look out the window.
I expect that if I left something interesting strapped to the telephone pole outside it wouldn't be long before it disappeared.
Not that different I suppose, just more people per hour walking past any given spot.
I expect that if I left something interesting strapped to the telephone pole outside it wouldn't be long before it disappeared.
Not that different I suppose, just more people per hour walking past any given spot.
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- Durham Region
My experiences lead me to believe that, generally speaking, honor in an urban environment has been long dead, whereas honor amongst outdoor enthusiasts, and it's decline, is relatively new.
But I'm following your point and agree, there are sh*tty people everywhere..
ITB
Cameron SS
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More and more city folk are moving out of the city to be away from the city, but they bring their city attitudes with them.
Out around the GTA it used to be easy to get permission to hunt the farms. Nowadays there are many areas where the farms are getting bought up by city folk who moved to the country for peace and quiet and hate hunters. But these are the same people complaining to the government that certain animal populations are out of control.
I have 3 of the Spypoint MMS cameras. they text me the photo every time they take a photo. the problem is that they use alot of battery power. So I had to install a solar panel and large 12v battery. not much of a "hidden" camera anymore. I did get photos of trespassers this year. So I hoped on the quad and headed to the east pasture where I confronted a couple hippies. They walked by them and didnt touch them, so i just politely asked them to move along and showed them what was all private land. I was super choked when I got a picture of people though. i really recommend these cameras. they are 15$ each a month though. Sasktel has great texting plans. the down side is that i have almost 2K$ tied up in 3 trail cameras. cameras we're 450$, a cell plan @15$ a month, a 50$ solar kit, and a 15$ SD card in each camera.
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I have 3 of the Spypoint MMS cameras. they text me the photo every time they take a photo. the problem is that they use alot of battery power. So I had to install a solar panel and large 12v battery. not much of a "hidden" camera anymore. I did get photos of trespassers this year. So I hoped on the quad and headed to the east pasture where I confronted a couple hippies. They walked by them and didnt touch them, so i just politely asked them to move along and showed them what was all private land. I was super choked when I got a picture of people though. i really recommend these cameras. they are 15$ each a month though. Sasktel has great texting plans. the down side is that i have almost 2K$ tied up in 3 trail cameras. cameras we're 450$, a cell plan @15$ a month, a 50$ solar kit, and a 15$ SD card in each camera.
the spypoint ones now have free pics up to 100 a month. will have to shop around and see who has the best price on a cam.
The Flint&Fly Guy
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- Location
- Northern Alberta
Wow! Those cams sound like they work great. I've never had one stolen yet, but every time I set one up I wonder if this will be the one!
OP - I feel your pain
My late father and I bought some property for deer hunting a few years ago, and like most property owners, we have had issues with trespassers and folks dumping garbage on our property. I love trail cameras and have a bunch and one year caught a person dumping brush on the property with the camera. After refusing to clean it up, a visit to the local OPP detachment with all of the pictures resulted in the brush being removed, and then a couple of weeks later, my camera being stolen, even though I had moved it. I now have several cameras out watching the road I built into the property and cameras watching dummy cameras (that no longer work) to see if I can catch them stealing the dummies.
I wrapped one of the defective cameras in white snow camo and then used white zip ties to secure it about 12 feet up in a small birch tree about 12 feet off the ground - same location as the stolen camera. Also wired in an antennae and note the warning message on the side of the camera. It is watched by two hidden cameas - one set to take photos and the other to take videos. Hasnt been touched yet but had a video from last year showing two guys driving by it on a quad pointing to it. As its very hard to see in the tree the only way they could have figured it out was if they had seen the previous camera up there.
Couple of things I have learned from setting these out for surveillance on my property - people rarely look up or down. Cameras set high in trees or on the base of trees rarely get noticed. Cameras with clear LED light bulbs are incredibly easy to pick out - buy cameras with blacked out IR. A few minutes with a can of spray paint or wraps of camo tape can break up the oblong outline of the camera when secured to the tree. Also on the strap - its usually the first thing you pick out on the trunk. I have been using home built screw in mounts for cameras that have the 1/4 - 20 thread hole on them - they work well for placing the camera in the tree without the strap -
https://cambushcamo.com/blogs/news/9586237-do-it-yourself-trail-camera-mount
My late father and I bought some property for deer hunting a few years ago, and like most property owners, we have had issues with trespassers and folks dumping garbage on our property. I love trail cameras and have a bunch and one year caught a person dumping brush on the property with the camera. After refusing to clean it up, a visit to the local OPP detachment with all of the pictures resulted in the brush being removed, and then a couple of weeks later, my camera being stolen, even though I had moved it. I now have several cameras out watching the road I built into the property and cameras watching dummy cameras (that no longer work) to see if I can catch them stealing the dummies.
I wrapped one of the defective cameras in white snow camo and then used white zip ties to secure it about 12 feet up in a small birch tree about 12 feet off the ground - same location as the stolen camera. Also wired in an antennae and note the warning message on the side of the camera. It is watched by two hidden cameas - one set to take photos and the other to take videos. Hasnt been touched yet but had a video from last year showing two guys driving by it on a quad pointing to it. As its very hard to see in the tree the only way they could have figured it out was if they had seen the previous camera up there.
Couple of things I have learned from setting these out for surveillance on my property - people rarely look up or down. Cameras set high in trees or on the base of trees rarely get noticed. Cameras with clear LED light bulbs are incredibly easy to pick out - buy cameras with blacked out IR. A few minutes with a can of spray paint or wraps of camo tape can break up the oblong outline of the camera when secured to the tree. Also on the strap - its usually the first thing you pick out on the trunk. I have been using home built screw in mounts for cameras that have the 1/4 - 20 thread hole on them - they work well for placing the camera in the tree without the strap -
https://cambushcamo.com/blogs/news/9586237-do-it-yourself-trail-camera-mount
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Today we prepared our deer spot for the season, fixing one stand, moving another to a new spot & yes, we discovered that we were the victims of theft with two of our trail cameras 'growing legs' and walking off... Some dirtbag made off with 2 SpyPoint black IR trail cams, I hope they enjoy them...
Not a good feeling, especially considering we were on private property.
Jay
Not a good feeling, especially considering we were on private property.
Jay
Yeah... last year in area 94 where i live I have a lease and during the shotgun hunt week somebody was kind enough to stable the motion sensor of my best spy point with a knife.
Now in area 92 I have a stolen cam.
Going to check out some family property tomorrow and see of my cam is still there in 85c.
Now in area 92 I have a stolen cam.
Going to check out some family property tomorrow and see of my cam is still there in 85c.
Chargerguy
CGN frequent flyer
And this is why my Reconyx cameras just sit at home and the cheapos get strapped to trees. I am a fan of having cameras watching cameras though, cellular cameras, or even black box cameras (which I've never owned). It's a shame this kind of stuff happens.
It was over 40 years since I had a theft from my farm, but now I've had 2 within a week. I guess the dogs and the used targets with the 5-round group over the heart aren't enough any more. So far, they're just stealing scrap (though with the price of copper, it may have amounted to a few hundred dollars) but I guess I should do something before it escalates.
One of the options I've considered is game cameras, (this is what the local cops recommended) but if I leave them out in the open, obviously anybody who has theft in mind will steal the camera, too. I've thought of mounting one inside a building with a big enough hole in the wall for the lens and the motion sensor. If this sounds feasible, it would not only protect it from theft and weather, but also make bulk and power consumption unimportant. I don't have power in most of the outbuildings, but there's plenty of room for a deep-cycle battery if the camera will operate off 6 or 12 volts. Where there's no building in a useful position, I can do the same thing by parking a junk car with the camera and battery in the trunk. I'm not quite ready to do the Breaking Bad thing with the M-60 in the trunk, though.
One feature I would like is adjustable sensitivity. It's possible, though unlikely, that a thief will come on foot. More likely, he'll be in a vehicle, so I'd prefer that the camera would only operate for large objects, not every rabbit or cat or blowing leaf.
And, as always, cost is a consideration, especially since I'll probably need more than one camera. After all, this isn't a nuclear power plant I'm protecting, and spending more on security than the value of the property at risk starts to get counter-productive.
Is there any particular camera I should be looking at, or would a video camera be a better option? If so, which one? Any suggestions on mounting it?
To be realistic, what will happen is that for the first few months, I'll conscientiously charge the battery and check for pictures. When nothing happens, I'll start to forget, and that's when the next theft will happen. The same thing would happen with gates I'd have to close every night.
One of the options I've considered is game cameras, (this is what the local cops recommended) but if I leave them out in the open, obviously anybody who has theft in mind will steal the camera, too. I've thought of mounting one inside a building with a big enough hole in the wall for the lens and the motion sensor. If this sounds feasible, it would not only protect it from theft and weather, but also make bulk and power consumption unimportant. I don't have power in most of the outbuildings, but there's plenty of room for a deep-cycle battery if the camera will operate off 6 or 12 volts. Where there's no building in a useful position, I can do the same thing by parking a junk car with the camera and battery in the trunk. I'm not quite ready to do the Breaking Bad thing with the M-60 in the trunk, though.
One feature I would like is adjustable sensitivity. It's possible, though unlikely, that a thief will come on foot. More likely, he'll be in a vehicle, so I'd prefer that the camera would only operate for large objects, not every rabbit or cat or blowing leaf.
And, as always, cost is a consideration, especially since I'll probably need more than one camera. After all, this isn't a nuclear power plant I'm protecting, and spending more on security than the value of the property at risk starts to get counter-productive.
Is there any particular camera I should be looking at, or would a video camera be a better option? If so, which one? Any suggestions on mounting it?
To be realistic, what will happen is that for the first few months, I'll conscientiously charge the battery and check for pictures. When nothing happens, I'll start to forget, and that's when the next theft will happen. The same thing would happen with gates I'd have to close every night.
That IS actually kinda awesome!
I walked past a camera on a cutline near Cold Lake, turned around and posed for the pictures.
They eventually showed up in my work email account. Funny chit!
