Ar optic switch..... Eotech opinions

I reccomend to try before you buy if possible, i had astigmatism before my lasik and the eotech has always been better for me than the aimpoint. Now both are gtg but it seems to me that eotech/aimpoint will be different for everyone in regard to reticle distortion.
 
iloveak47 said:
I reccomend to try before you buy if possible, i had astigmatism before my lasik and the eotech has always been better for me than the aimpoint. Now both are gtg but it seems to me that eotech/aimpoint will be different for everyone in regard to reticle distortion.
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Yep going to try anything I can. There is pretty good selection of everything between csc and rdsc my two main haunts. I'm doing Lasik after Xmas so maybe this is a temporary issue. I'll keep the sparc ar in the closet just in case
 
FoxAlpha said:
The only issue eotech ever had was a point of impact shift during extreme heat or cold fluctuations, something akin to that.
90% of Canadian shooters who lost their sh!t over it, did so rather foolishly if you take you're rifle out a handful of times during "optimal weather conditions" like most average shooters.
There's never been a question regarding their durability or longevity.

It's like someone saying "id never buy a Glock because it doesn't shoot after it's been buried in the mud!" yet they white glove the living hell out of their firearms.


As for the astigmatism issue, I'll leave that to someone who has experience regarding that.
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Absolutely incorrect.

Eotech sights suffer from multiple problems and include thermal drift at all temperatures, the most extreme POI shift is experienced at extreme temps on both ends of the scale.
Eotech sights fail to return to zero after experiencing any temperature changes.
Eotech sights suffer from parallax error in colder temperatures.
Eotech sights suffer from inconsistent click values for adjustment.
Eotech sights suffer from moisture incursion which causes reticle fade or dimming, the sights are not water proof.
Eotech sights suffer from parasitic battery drain for unknown reasons.(not in the case file but a known problem)

These issue are laid out in the litigation documents filed by the US gov against L3 communications/Eotech.
http://www.eotechlawsuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/EOTechOrder.pdf

More source information about Eotech's known issues.
http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2015/12/07/eotech-in-trouble/

DVX said:
EOTech's are great. I run an XPS. Never had an issue really. I've left it in the extremely hot cab of my truck and no shift. I've also taken it out in -40 and no shift. I have it co-witnissed with my iron sights. Never noticed any shifts, and it hits (usually) where I point it. Nice and durable too. My rifle has seen more than its fair share of tumbles (I'm not just a bench queen) and its survived things other sights wouldn't. Given the hysteria over the POI shift that 95% of shooters will never in their life experience, you can get them second hand at pretty good prices too. I plan on getting one or two more for my other rifles.

I don't suffer from any vision problems, so I can't speak on any potential issues with glasses or what have you.
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Your one off experience somehow does not trump the testing done by Naval Special Warfare Crane division, the FBI or Eotech themselves. All came to the same conclusion, the sights are defective on multiple accounts and there is no remedy. Hence the very large settlement Eotech/L3 paid to the US gov as well as the many thousands of refunds they issued to anyone who bought a sight between 2006 and 2016.

hbean said:
The purpose of using a red dot is faster in acquisition of your target without having obtain a proper cheek weld, if you have to look through your irons with your red dot that defeats all the advantage of having a red dot, you might as well get a scope at that point.
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Without having to align the rear sight with the front sight, looking through the rear aperture to locate the reddot is still faster than irons.

dunning said:
Correct, this is not useful for close range applications as you don't need a perfectly round 1moa dot. But for long distances being able to sharpen up that 1moa dot is key.
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Reddot sights are not designed for long distance shooting. The 1 MOA dot is not overly useful on a non magnified optic.
 
Honestly i suggest you just get lasik and then your optics problem is solved. That's what I did��

I loved my eotech optics I've owned 4 from the 512-exps2 and they are all great. The sight picture is amazing for me. I have since sold my eotech to play with new toys. I've had tge aimpoints compml2 and 3 and a pro and they are great both 2 and 4moa versions though less fov. I prefer the eotech donut dot reticle.
In all honestly though I've sold them all and settled on a holosun 403gl on a geiselle mount. Its ran like a boss and I have no complaints
Ymmv

Just my thoughts on the whole thing.
 
TheM4chef said:
Honestly i suggest you just get lasik and then your optics problem is solved. That's what I did��

I loved my eotech optics I've owned 4 from the 512-exps2 and they are all great. The sight picture is amazing for me. I have since sold my eotech to play with new toys. I've had tge aimpoints compml2 and 3 and a pro and they are great both 2 and 4moa versions though less fov. I prefer the eotech donut dot reticle.
In all honestly though I've sold them all and settled on a holosun 403gl on a geiselle mount. Its ran like a boss and I have no complaints
Ymmv

Just my thoughts on the whole thing.
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Yeah but with that money I may as well just get a trijicon or Elcan and be done with it. Priorities man! Where is your head!

Seriously I hear you. I am going to do some shopping around for something reasonable to tide me over but before I may any big decisions optics wise I'll have had the Lasik done. Have been to consult and going to one more and am scheduling for after Xmas

Now I know what to put in the line for reasons for surgery..... Put quality of life and sick of contacts at one consultation. I'm going to put bang bang in my next appointment and see if it raises any eyebrows
 
hfx123 said:
'm going to put bang bang in my next appointment and see if it raises any eyebrows
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When I was preparing for my cataract surgery earlier this year I needed to discuss options for my artificial lenses with the doctor—he had no issues (or at least none that he let on) when I told him I was a shooter.
 
I know they've had their issues reported, but I love my EoTech. Apparently they're still good enough for the RCMP and muni ERTs, as well as the JTF... That said, like any holosight they're bad for astigmatism.

I suggest you get yourself a Vortex Spitfire... The work great with astigmatism!!!!
 
Master-G said:
When I was preparing for my cataract surgery earlier this year I needed to discuss options for my artificial lenses with the doctor—he had no issues (or at least none that he let on) when I told him I was a shooter.
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My regular doctor has a magpul phone case.. Lol. Lot's if people shoot although the doctor ar first consult didn't strike me as one. It is mostly quality of life and contacts due to the fact I work in a sand pit in northern Alberta but everyone I know says it is the best thing they ever did so if it helps the first two and more comfort shooting I'm in
 
Phat Eagle said:
I know they've had their issues reported, but I love my EoTech. Apparently they're still good enough for the RCMP and muni ERTs, as well as the JTF... That said, like any holosight they're bad for astigmatism.

I suggest you get yourself a Vortex Spitfire... The work great with astigmatism!!!!
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Wife has similar issue. We actually looked through a spitfire 3x and it was sharp for both of us so prism seems like it's winning out. At work for a week then I'll go shopping
 
hfx123 said:
Wife has similar issue. We actually looked through a spitfire 3x and it was sharp for both of us so prism seems like it's winning out. At work for a week then I'll go shopping
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I like the DRT reticle too... Similar to the EoTech donut of death. Fast for CQB and acceptable for point accuracy when you slow down.
 
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