milsurp alert!! - check this out!

[MiG25]

There are only 50ish of these in Canada and from what I hear 500 released worldwide. They are the closest thing to an original 91/30 we're going to get. They are all "lightly" refurbished. Mine is all matching original parts and stock with all its cartouche's on it. The only refurb I can see is a light sanding of my bolt.
I think their price is justified. A lightly refurbished 91/30 without the attached bayonet would sell for some good coin. Add in the Semin bayonet and the low availability of this rifle and you have justified the price of these.

Who knows what these will cost in the future....

So, I have a Hungarian 43M, 1 of 2 I've ever seen (the other was missing the bolt), I don't think it's a $1000 rifle.

 

[Mayday_]

So, I have a Hungarian 43M, 1 of 2 I've ever seen (the other was missing the bolt), I don't think it's a $1000 rifle.

They all sold out in less than 24 hours by the way....

 

[Claven2]

So, I have a Hungarian 43M, 1 of 2 I've ever seen (the other was missing the bolt), I don't think it's a $1000 rifle.

I agree. A 43M is not a $1000 rifle in Canada - what of it?

Part of something being collectible is that there are enough cheaper guns out there and enough "cache" that a collector community starts. As the common varieties are ticked off, those with means seek out the rarer and pricier variants. There is a collector community for Mosins - there isn't one, at least not in Canada, for rifles as obscure an un-inspiring as Hungarian 43M's.

 

[DJdeadlyDALEK]

Images of mine are still up, Horilka. I think the site I started using was tinypic - it's easy to use

 

[GUB]

I had no problem paying $900 for a Finnish Mosin M39!!
But a grand for a wartime Mosin with a welded on bayonet.... Nope

 

[Claven2]

I had no problem paying $900 for a Finnish Mosin M39!!
But a grand for a wartime Mosin with a welded on bayonet.... Nope

??

Nothing is welded on on the Semin trials version of the 91/30. If you think something is welded onto these guns, you have the wrong thing in mind.

 

[Claven2]

My pics re-posted.

 

[polaris]

What a beauty!
Look at the fine old world craftsmanship.
Outstanding.

 

[Claven2]

What a beauty!
Look at the fine old world craftsmanship.
Outstanding.

Lol. It's beautiful to my eye the same way a late war phosphate k98k is beautiful, despite being crude.

Late war matching mausers bring among the highest prices. With these, it's no different.

 

[polaris]

Lol. It's beautiful to my eye the same way a late war phosphate k98k is beautiful, despite being crude.

Late war matching mausers bring among the highest prices. With these, it's no different.

So do you mean they are not beautiful firearms, finished and assembled by the most skilled old world craftsmen?

 

[Claven2]

So do you mean they are not beautiful firearms, finished and assembled by the most skilled old world craftsmen?

Of course not. These were made in the darkest hours of WW2, likely by very old men and housewives who didn't have a job prior to 1941.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

They all sold out in less than 24 hours by the way....

Exactly. High in Demand and Rare. Not many of this variant out there.

 

[PinkyPlinker]

One of mine has old, worn paint in the SN, as I've seen on other Mosins. Wondering how many others may have one with paint as well?
Very odd. Any theories? The paint was clearly applied long ago.

 

[Mayday_]

Anyone notice the stock is thicker?
Mine seems thicker behind the trigger like an ATV stock in thicker than an SVT stock.

 

[Claven2]

Anyone notice the stock is thicker?
Mine seems thicker behind the trigger like an ATV stock in thicker than an SVT stock.

It's not that it's thicker, it's that refurb stocks have been sanded thinner in most cases.

 

[Mayday_]

It's not that it's thicker, it's that refurb stocks have been sanded thinner in most cases.

That's exactly it. I'm just use to the refurbs. This one feels nice.

 

[Horilka]

So apparently there were some rifles with original bluing. That is something I was and still looking for.

Here's comparison of original bluing and re-blued version. Surface imperfections are very crisp under original bluing and smudged under re-bluing.
Another possible signs (not always observed) of original metal finish are distinctive paint in the serials of receiver and floor plate, non-blued trigger and internal surface of bayonet ring.

 

[Mayday_]

Ahh that's what you were up to!

 

[polaris]

https://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/mosin-nagant-m9130-rifle-side-folding-bayonet

My advice - buy one now. This will be a $2000 mosin within a few months. Perhaps the rarest mosin ever to be offered for sale in Canada - no, I'm not kidding. I ordered one already.

Four months into the game, they still sell for less on the EE than tradex asked for them originally.

 

[Claven2]

Four months into the game, they still sell for less on the EE than tradex asked for them originally.

Patience . It will eventually happen in my opinion.