Its not about whatever miniscule percentage my odds would go up; or about whether I feel better or worse. For me it's the illogic of blatantly favoring one group over another. Or do you not think that getting an otherwise draw licence every year is a favored status?
Saskatchewan OTC mule deer archery
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Its not about whatever miniscule percentage my odds would go up; or about whether I feel better or worse. For me it's the illogic of blatantly favoring one group over another. Or do you not think that getting an otherwise draw licence every year is a favored status?
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Agreed, it should be the same odds for all.
Maybe they should offer an over the counter tag and season for hunters who would hunt bare-foot and/or with one hand tied behind their back?
It would be harder, less effective and there wouldn't be many takers at first (maybe just me) so what difference does it make? We could sneer at the "boot-hunters", and the "two handed slob-hunters". Everyone who disagrees is either jealous or anti-footsi.
It would be harder, less effective and there wouldn't be many takers at first (maybe just me) so what difference does it make? We could sneer at the "boot-hunters", and the "two handed slob-hunters". Everyone who disagrees is either jealous or anti-footsi.
Nope, but the modern Muzzle loading firearms are a far cry from what was the original intent of having a separate season and/or Zone, for them to be used in.
Like archery seasons, they were intended, for those willing to put in the extra effort and that were willing to live with the limitations in range and efficacy.
Personally, I am more than a little revolted by the number of folks that will see someone else thrown under the bus.
I hunted with an OTC Archery Mule deer tag while I lived there. It got me out and about in the hills and netted me another opportunity that I could or could not use as I chose. I don't see that taking that opportunity away from one group, will in any way increase the opportunities for another. They will look at the zones, look at the respective success rates, and reduce the numbers accordingly.
FWIW, I hunted the Bow season, then Shotgun/ML, as well as Rifle seasons in Saskatchewan. All I see is the loss of opportunities to hunt Mule deer, rather than any net benefit.
The argument that folks are using the tags to illegally harvest deer by other means, doesn't wash with me. If the are, and you know about it, report it and get on with your life. Easy.
Here in BC right now, my rifle season starts about when the Bow season in Sk. does, and ends about the same time as Rifle shuts down. There are still bow hunters around, and I still have opportunities for lots of deer in the cooler.
I just don't see how taking away from others is going to do anything but divide up folks that should be standing together.
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That is exactly what it is about. If not then tell me how it is favored status.
I think the archery seasons were a great thing and still are in some places. With all the scrapping back and forth what gets lost in the argument is that it served it's purpose well, and gave almost unlimited opportunities to anyone who wanted to put in some effort. From what I've seen the downfall is lots of hunters and better gear, which is great but the harvest goes up accordingly to a point where it has to be managed. Hmm sounds familiar? Just the way it goes. Now someone mentioned one handed barefoot knife hunting, count me in
I think the archery seasons were a great thing and still are in some places. With all the scrapping back and forth what gets lost in the argument is that it served it's purpose well, and gave almost unlimited opportunities to anyone who wanted to put in some effort. From what I've seen the downfall is lots of hunters and better gear, which is great but the harvest goes up accordingly to a point where it has to be managed. Hmm sounds familiar? Just the way it goes. Now someone mentioned one handed barefoot knife hunting, count me in
Problem is, this argument is not based on over harvest.
Pure envy.
How is it favoured? Let me count the ways.......
One
Two
Three
Four........wait for it.......
Five
Five is a number; equal to the fingers of normal human hand plus
the thumb. One is also a number, albeit a smaller one. Five is way better.
Glad I could clear that up.
I completely disagree, having a separate archery season, draw or regular makes complete sense. I normally have to stalk any animal to get within bow range, last thing I want is to get shot by someone who cannot see me.
Having a separate Archery season gives archers somewhat of a peace of mind and allows us to stalk animals confidently or use decoys without getting shot.
How is it favoured? Let me count the ways.......
One
Two
Three
Four........wait for it.......
Five
Five is a number; equal to the fingers of normal human hand plus
the thumb. One is also a number, albeit a smaller one. Five is way better.
Glad I could clear that up.
LOL. Dodge all you want but it still amounts to you being upset that someone else having more opportunity than you. So you want to reduce their opportunity even though it doesn't decrease your opportunity now and eliminating it will not increase your opportunity.
Putting salt in their coffee doesn't sweeten your own.
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I feel your argument is about as valid as those I have listened to saying you should not be allowed to purchase a waterfowl license and hunt waterfowl unless you can provide proof of ownership of a bird dog with a minimum of a CKC/AKC “working certificate” or HRC “pass”.
I am not the one arguing in favor of reducing hunting opportunity.
Not only are all hunters competing with eachother but we are competing with all other people and industries for use of land and the scarce resource that inhabits those lands. In this case, wildlife, which has the lowest priority of any department in the Saskatchewan government or Canada for that matter.
We need to focus on the big picture here and not lose sight of our goals or be side tracked by short term changes made by near sighted individuals or organizations.
We must pass along our tradition to the new generations, and to other people who are interested in hunting and conservation, and improve our lands to support healthy herds. Ensuring we protect enough lands and in large enough blocks to continue to provide enough space for wildlife to roam and enough animals for people to hunt will be a challenge and very expensive.
Won't be long before we lose these rights or priviledges we enjoy if we can't maintain focus and stay united as one voice. First we lose the right to own a certain class of firearms, then we lose the right to own firearms, and finally we lose the right to hunt. But I won't accept defeat. I choose to win. I am a hunter. Not because I choose to be...but because I am human.
We need to focus on the big picture here and not lose sight of our goals or be side tracked by short term changes made by near sighted individuals or organizations.
We must pass along our tradition to the new generations, and to other people who are interested in hunting and conservation, and improve our lands to support healthy herds. Ensuring we protect enough lands and in large enough blocks to continue to provide enough space for wildlife to roam and enough animals for people to hunt will be a challenge and very expensive.
Won't be long before we lose these rights or priviledges we enjoy if we can't maintain focus and stay united as one voice. First we lose the right to own a certain class of firearms, then we lose the right to own firearms, and finally we lose the right to hunt. But I won't accept defeat. I choose to win. I am a hunter. Not because I choose to be...but because I am human.
Saskatoon covers 88 sq/mi with a river running through it. Imagine the game that could live there if it was never developed.
Road hunting is NOT illegal it happens in plain sight every season....as long as you take 10 steps off the road and don't shoot along or across a highway, grid or any other numbered or maintained municipal road?
ATV hunting is illegal? Is this a joke? Thats 90% of Moose and Elk hunters in Provincial forest? As long as rifle is encased what is a C.O going to do?
Seen 3 groups of hunters from Manitoba. 2-3 white guys hunting with a Treaty. Even had conversation with CO about it....and he said there is nothing they can do as long as they have a valid tag. This is just in one area....and does not include out of privince hunting on a deer or bear tag accompaning a Sask resident on a Moose or Elk hunt.
Modern Muzzleloaders with ballistic drop scopes are easily capabale of taking game out to 500 yards.
I dont have problem with muzzleloaders but they should be limited to Iron sights.
https://www.gunwerks.com/store/rifles/muzzleloader
715 yard muzzleloader on Antelope
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https://youtu.be/08j4u6tL0RU
You know when politicians give themselves a raise when times are tough for everyone? I doubt if I could detect how much that changes my own taxes, its probably an amount too small to notice. It isn't the dollar figure itself, since they really don't make that much. What pisses me off is the double standard.
Moving along; I don't think we've given the barefoot season idea a fair shake. There's not much that's more traditional than going bare-foot, it pre-dates the bow by millions of years.
