NEW NR BLACK RIFLE - Maccabee Defense SLR

[Jonesyatpl]

It's actually a steal. Stick to your chinese garbage, comrade.

When ever I think of diving back into the Canadian firearms market and manufacturing guns, I just turn to CGN to be reminded how absolutely awful Canadian gun owners are. I truly do distain most of you so much.

*Disdain*

And the word you were looking for grammatically is 'detest'.

Fair enough. We can all have opinions. I have no trouble spending $$ on guns. I have XCRs and Sakos in my inventory and have no issues with what I spend on them. Not to mention optics, etc.

I'm just saying comparing Non-Norinco lower prices, ie Aero Precision, DD, heck even recent NEA etc..... It's hard to justify paying triple-plus the cost for a lower just for the privilege of taking it off the range. I think I got my last Aero Precision lower for 99 bucks on sale. Quality was fine.

Assuming I am communist because I want to see an NR lower within reach of the average guy is presumptuous at best. Fairly sure communists want people disarmed, not the opposite.

 

[JaredP]

It would make no sense to sell just uppers and receivers right off the bat. the rifles are built to exacting specs, its a highly engineered firearm built to extremely demanding standards. If you buy one, and want to drop in ar parts, you will be hard pressed to find higher quality parts. that was one of the things they decided right off the bat. they would rather be known for a high quality firearm and sell a decent number than spam out garbage. if you want cheap, go restricted and buy a norinco. If you want top end quality and NR at a decent price then go macdef SLR. right now a decent NR firearm is anywhere from 2000 to 3500.00, If I can get a customisable AR style weapon built with exactly specs and its NR? im down to spend the same as I would on Tavor or Keltec. I would prefer it to be cheaper obvs who wouldnt ? but you get what you pay for

I don't know what point you're trying to make..

the rifles are built to exact specs? If they're "compatible" with AR parts, then that "exact spec" is already known. And it just so turns out every single AR part on the market is also built to that spec, that's how standards work.

Hard pressed to finder higher quality parts? Higher quality than what? Some no-name shop in Alberta? I'm absolutely certain I can find higher quality AR parts in the 300million+ gun market to our south where the most popular firearm is the AR.

This is not about price. This is about availability and customization. This company invented exactly one unique product, a non-restricted lower and upper that are compatible with all other AR parts. They should spend their tool time manufacturing exclusively that.

 

[MET]

1000$ is not a steal for a stripped upper and lower. You can get quality, well-made, solid brand uppers and lowers for less than 500$ the pair. The very cheapest ones (not even Chinese....) are 100$ for a stripped lower. 1000$ is not "a steal" for a milled out piece of aluminum. People saying that 1000$ is too much for stripped receivers are not awful gun owners.

Do tell us where in Canada that we can buy "non-restricted" stripped black rifle lowers and uppers for a $1000.00 or under? I have never actually seen NR black rifle lower/upper receiver available in Canada at any price unless ur talking Red Rifles and the 858, WR762 etc...

 

[driller212]

Small companies have higher costs and low turnout so they usually have to charge more. Just a fact of life.

There are plenty of more affordable and tested options for a non res semi if people can't afford this. It's just the "I want but I can't have" factor that gets to us. I myself am guilty of it.

Heck, you can get an xcr for great prices used these days.

 

[762mm]

1000$ is not a steal for a stripped upper and lower. You can get quality, well-made, solid brand uppers and lowers for less than 500$ the pair. The very cheapest ones (not even Chinese....) are 100$ for a stripped lower. 1000$ is not "a steal" for a milled out piece of aluminum. People saying that 1000$ is too much for stripped receivers are not awful gun owners.

This. It's funny how company A in another country can make a complete gun and ship it over for $1000 while local company B makes just a part of a similar gun (milled out piece of aluminum called a receiver) for the same price and has their lackeys call it "a steal". How so?

Once the CNC machine is programmed and ready to go, what's the costs involved? Are we paying through the nose for their "German expert's" precious R&D time here? He must've been some expert, probably a resurrected zombie of Herr Mauser himself! I say the NR tax is strong with this one. I'll stick to my cheap commie guns at that price and proudly wear the title "awful gun owner". If being a "good gun owner" means being an idiot with your wallet and a whore for anything NR that looks "cool", you can count me out!


P.S. It's not a question of being able to afford it, it's simply a question of not getting ripped off. A piece of milled out aluminum should be priced for what it is and what it costs to produce, with say 25% profit for the manufacturer after all is said and done. The day a Canadian gun manufacturer actually uses such a model (instead of getting greedy right from the start) will be a complete win for them. Our fellow gun owners getting pickier and not being suckers for NR like they used to be is a great thing for business competition and therefore for the future of gun manufacturing in this country.

 

[tony9000]

where can i buy this rifle!

 

[Murray 3-D]

Im not in the firearms manufacturing business and I can completley understand where he is coming from. Many guns owners seem to want a race to the bottom.

NO. I think many gun owners are just tired of the blatant inflated prices of various products in the Canadian firearms industry...

Somehow other manufacturers can make an entire AR 15 for less than $1000 CAD and still make a profit. Same goes for 100's of other American made guns. Yet a Machine shop during a recession with all sorts of unemployed Machinists and Millwrights looking for work in the industrial sector of Calgary AB wants to charge $1000 CAD for just a basic CNC'd upper and lower ??! greedy if u ask me.

 

[762mm]

where can i buy this rifle!

You can send them your first born and a blank check once they have started sales. For now, no ripoff for you.

 

[tiriaq]

This thread started badly, improved significantly, but unfortunately has deteriorated to bickering and drivel.
The rifle is an interesting project. It would be good to learn more about it as information becomes available.