ATRS MV-S “Sporter” - Stripped “AR” Non-Restricted Reciever

xdmer said:
These are great developments, that I never thought would have been done, but also don't know what took so long.

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We learned A LOT from past experience with the MH and the assorted internet forums. And in retrospect I now wish we had kept quiet about this project and simply dumped it onto the market with a like it or leave it caveat. Less abuse from the haters and malcontents but I feel constructive public interaction is valuable in producing what folks want.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Yes but I suspect these will be predominantly sold as stripped uppers and lowers for the DIY crowd.
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Cool. I haven't gotten into the AR game yet, so a complete rifle might be the better option. I'm done school in a few weeks so once I get a real job I'll finally have some money to get into the AR game... Or the NR NOT-AR game seems more likely now with the options coming to market.
 
Brian46 said:
I don't need to, I asked only a few days ago about purchasing and incomplete rifle and told no by yourself, now here it is coming available. I know it wasn't me that forced your hand to reveal this to the public.
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I was the one that has known since shortly after the purchase of my MV this spring, I was not privi to specifics other than standard triggers and standard CH.

Like Rick says, the MV is not available in "stripped" configuration due to liability issues because even at its most stripped level, you would still need the CH, Barrel, BCG for the upper, and the trigger and bolt release for the lower. As such, they were considered proprietary by the insurance company. This did not stop many of us who understood from supplying Rick with our own parts to build our rifles. This did not stop individuals from sending their rifles to Herron Arms for conversions either, just the same as the ACR being sold complete as a 5.56 doesn't either.

The MV-S is not a Gen 2 MV, rather it is a new design based on the MV that uses no proprietary parts.

Ask yourself this - what industry tells people to stop purchasing current product before the next product comes to market, to wait for a product that doesn't have anouncement yet? This new model does not even have an frt yet so it might be a ways out before these are available to purchase.
 
I think it's great what they're doing.
But I ,as a MV owner,would sure appreciate the option to buy a stripped upper for my MV.
I really have no need for the new models,as my MV,has all the features,I want.

Well,except a stripped upper:)
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
You asked about a MV, which we still won't sell as stripped uppers and lowers. That has not changed along with the fact we still won't offer a 30RAR that you have been griping about for some time now.

I can pretty much assure you that we will not be the first out of the gate as we have not sent out a rifle yet for classification. We prefer to test thoroughly, then get the FRT.
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You didn't mention the MV-S as an option.......

The NEA 102 is not even on retailers shelves, I would be surprised if any of these new products have stock on retailers shelves in under a year. I don't think anyone's production capability is large enough to meet demand for the for at least that long and doesn't sound like anyone is expanding their production capabilites to double or triple their production numbers
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
We learned A LOT from past experience with the MH and the assorted internet forums. And in retrospect I now wish we had kept quiet about this project and simply dumped it onto the market with a like it or leave it caveat. Less abuse from the haters and malcontents but I feel constructive public interaction is valuable in producing what folks want.
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Only if the manufacturer listens to consumer demands
 
onetwentyish said:
This did not stop individuals from sending their rifles to Herron Arms for conversions either.
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Ian has not done any work on a MV, so in effect something has stopped people from contemplating a conversion.

Speaking of conversions, you have pm about your 450 conversion on the EE

This did not stop many of us who understood from supplying Rick with our own parts to build our rifles.
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I would supply ATRS with the 30RAR components to build my own MV if they can supply me with the rest of the rifle so I can have them made.
 
yohann160 said:
Upper and lower that accepts any AR parts. That's all we need. Oh and 18.6'' pencil barrels (5.56, 6.5 grendel)
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Yupp. Then we can buy a cheap AR and swap all the parts. If they can hit $900, thats under $1700 taxes in for the whole rifle, plus a left-over AR upper and lower (which you could either keep or sell, although I have a feeling the market for cheap Lowers/uppers is gonna be heavily favoring the buyers for some time once these products hit the market so I'm not sure how much money you'd actually be able to recover)

I would also love to see them build their own basic rifle with all the parts included though, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has no experience fudging around inside an AR but still wants an NR facsimile...
 
Not really, I remember not long ago there was a limited production hunting rifle specially made for a retailer. When asked how they came to decide options on caliber, features, etc it was said they consulted the consumer group they were targeting......well, nobody was ever named as to have been consulted on the design, nobody came forward to say they were involved either.

Market research is only useful if you actually do it and use it to make the product buyers actually want
 
ya, I like how this project appears to be shaping up. Gonna wait on purchasing any of these new NR offerings out there till we see this one come out. I like building and tinkering and this sounds good.
 
45ACPKING said:
ya, I like how this project appears to be shaping up. Gonna wait on purchasing any of these new NR offerings out there till we see this one come out. I like building and tinkering and this sounds good.
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Why not just buy the cool toys that come out now, and then also buy the cool toys that come out later. xD
 
ATRS has a proven track record of building stuff that works. I would trust them over a company that I just read about 2 weeks ago.
 
The reason was explained a few times recently and in the past (even several years ago). This is also a separate design than the MH or MV, but builds on their success. Competition and differences in design and materials, is a good thing.
edge9382 said:
We've been asking for this from them for a while now, and they have flat out refused to do it until someone else comes along to release a receiver only set. I won't be giving AT my money.
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CanuckR said:
100%
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Brianma65 said:
I think it's great what they're doing.
But I ,as a MV owner,would sure appreciate the option to buy a stripped upper for my MV.
I really have no need for the new models,as my MV,has all the features,I want.

Well,except a stripped upper:)
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They've already said that due to the number of proprietary parts needed to assemble a MV upper you would have to buy pretty much everything but the bolt and handguard.
If you really like the rifle but want a caliber not on the menu then I see absolutely no reason you couldn't buy a complete upper with whatever barrel you think would be the easiest to sell then have a new barrel installed by Herron or some other smith willing to build you whatever caliber you want. If all you needed was a barrel and bolt installed it would be an easy conversion for any experienced AR smith.
 
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