M10X Canadian MSRP set

As for the machine marks, most of that will make absolutely no difference in how the rifle functions, as long as the friction surfaces are polished smooth the rest is just cosmetic.

I agree.

In Swiss Arms designs BCG rides the rails formed by upper. So the only points of contact needing lubrication are those tiny groves at the bottom of BCG. The rest of BCG doesn’t contact anything. So finish of BCG is irrelevant.
 
I agree.

In Swiss Arms designs BCG rides the rails formed by upper. So the only points of contact needing lubrication are those tiny groves at the bottom of BCG. The rest of BCG doesn’t contact anything. So finish of BCG is irrelevant.

At this price point, M&M should be polishing these things flawless. I can buy a $600 PSA AR15 that won't have a tool mark anywhere and is far more complicated to make then these stamped and screwed together units.
To me anyway, parts left looking ####ty is acceptable on cheap crap. Not on $2000 units.
 
Well, with M+M and NS on duty I just hope that those that buy them never need parts or service after the sale.

As for the machine marks, most of that will make absolutely no difference in how the rifle functions, as long as the friction surfaces are polished smooth the rest is just cosmetic.

I don't know what you are talking about. North Sylva is known as a top tier distributor with impeccable after-sale support.

They are AAA rated at the better business bureau and when I last looked 3 months ago they had a 5 star google rating for awesome service.

I think you are being unfair about them. They rock.







































Ok , I feel greasy and I just threw up in my mouth a little.
 
Ive been following the M+M Customer Developmemt page and have seen M+M take care of guys issues quickly and efficiently there. How that will work through NS is questionable, but I dont doubt contacting M+M directly will get decent help.
 
You order a type 81 or vz,cz 58/858 instead.

And live unhappily ever after with your 40-year old design that doesn't even mount optics. In the case of the T81 you can have a bent receiver, hand-ground bolt fitment, and mismatched furniture at no extra cost, with delivery scheduled some time in the next calendar year. With the CZ you get to play the odds for a "Gremlin" gun. Yeah, T81 or VZ/CZ for the win over the M10X for sure..... NOT!!

Ho hum, just another M10X troll. Move along, nothing to see here....
 
As for the machine marks, most of that will make absolutely no difference in how the rifle functions, as long as the friction surfaces are polished smooth the rest is just cosmetic.

Can't say I agree 100% my friend. Sure said parts can still run flawlessly but it can also be indicative of poor workmanship, rushed production, bad QC. My NEA's had finished/worksmanship like that. A quarter of them didn't have any issues, the rest had significant ones right out of the box. Parts are a reflection of the gun IMO.

The item in the picture in question doesn't appear thoroughly made to me but I suppose time will tell.


Warranty wise I had great Warranty service direct from Keltec. When I was told I had to now deal directly with the single warranty depo out west my turn around went from 2 weeks to 6 or 7 months with next to no comms. Hopefully M+M doesn't mimic that.

Overall looks wise I gotta admit the 10X looks pretty awesome. The DMR components are still killing me.
 
And live unhappily ever after with your 40-year old design that doesn't even mount optics. In the case of the T81 you can have a bent receiver, hand-ground bolt fitment, and mismatched furniture at no extra cost, with delivery scheduled some time in the next calendar year. With the CZ you get to play the odds for a "Gremlin" gun. Yeah, T81 or VZ/CZ for the win over the M10X for sure..... NOT!!

Ho hum, just another M10X troll. Move along, nothing to see here....

hahaha,,, You have too much expectation about m10x. You can have a crate of SKS for this kind of money !
 
hahaha,,, You have too much expectation about m10x. You can have a crate of SKS for this kind of money !

So what? Then you have a crate of 60-year old rifles with mediocre accuracy and no optics mounting options, with salt-blued parts susceptible to corrosion- induced rust. You can also buy 1000 Tim Hortons' medium double-doubles (with change back) for $2k. You would be just as far ahead as you would with your brilliant SKS plan. What was your point again?

Seems to me that you had a pre-order in with Wanstalls before they reneged. The rifle that you wanted has only changed for the better with an improved trigger and stainless steel or nitrited gas--affected parts. So why all the hate?
 
So what? Then you have a crate of 60-year old rifles with mediocre accuracy and no optics mounting options, with salt-blued parts susceptible to corrosion- induced rust. You can also buy 1000 Tim Hortons' medium double-doubles (with change back) for $2k. You would be just as far ahead as you would with your brilliant SKS plan. What was your point again?

Seems to me that you had a pre-order in with Wanstalls before they reneged. The rifle that you wanted has only changed for the better with an improved trigger and stainless steel or nitrited gas--affected parts. So why all the hate?

Well this is half AK which is a 60 year old design, and half 540 which is a 50 year old design, nothing exactly "modern" about this bag of crap. Ohhh I can mount optics on it, so I can see how ####ty my groups are at 50m...big whoop. It's 7.62x39, not like it's effective range requires optics, unless you are blind I guess, or suck at shooting.
 
Bartok5 said:
has only changed for the better with an improved trigger

Legitimate question, is there any references or sources of exactly how the trigger was upgraded? Other than them saying it's a DMR match grade trigger?
 
Can't say I agree 100% my friend. Sure said parts can still run flawlessly but it can also be indicative of poor workmanship, rushed production, bad QC. My NEA's had finished/worksmanship like that. A quarter of them didn't have any issues, the rest had significant ones right out of the box. Parts are a reflection of the gun IMO.

The item in the picture in question doesn't appear thoroughly made to me but I suppose time will tell.


Warranty wise I had great Warranty service direct from Keltec. When I was told I had to now deal directly with the single warranty depo out west my turn around went from 2 weeks to 6 or 7 months with next to no comms. Hopefully M+M doesn't mimic that.

Overall looks wise I gotta admit the 10X looks pretty awesome. The DMR components are still killing me.

It all depends where the machining marks are, if they are on a friction/wear surface that's bad but if it's just on the side of the carrier where nothing is touching it during cycling then it make zero difference.
Look at the APC, that is a $4000 retail rifle and guys were posting pics with machining marks all over the parts, as long as the important surfaces are finished properly it's just saving them money by not wasting time polishing something that does nothing.

As for warranty, even if M+M does have good customer service and takes care of it's US customers that means nothing here since most parts will have to go through the importer to make it across the border.

The M10x looks decent but it's still being made by a company run by a douchebag and imported by a company with a less than stellar reputation for customer service once they have your money.

I was almost onboard at $1500 then the drama started and the owner made some comments that disgusted me, then the price jumped $500 just to have an inch and a half more barrel and a DMR safety and I'd had enough. I can't justify $2000 for a x39 bullet hose from a company with no history that's run by an assclown.

I predict this rifle to sell a few units at $2000 then we'll get the range reports and find out about the problems with it and the price will be $1500 within 18 months, then they still won't sell too many and it will be another page in CGN history. I hope I'm wrong for the sake of the guys who are buying one but to me it's just too much money to throw at a rifle that I'm buying so I can shoot the cheapest ammo I can find. DMR and x39 in the same description of a rifle should raise a few flags, simple marketing ploy to fool the fools. I wouldn't expect anything better than 4-6 moa from this rifle, time will tell.


And live unhappily ever after with your 40-year old design that doesn't even mount optics. In the case of the T81 you can have a bent receiver, hand-ground bolt fitment, and mismatched furniture at no extra cost, with delivery scheduled some time in the next calendar year. With the CZ you get to play the odds for a "Gremlin" gun. Yeah, T81 or VZ/CZ for the win over the M10X for sure..... NOT!!

Ho hum, just another M10X troll. Move along, nothing to see here....

How do you know the M10x won't be the same? Until these are in Canada and in customers hands they are simply vaporware, no one really knows anything.

I'm anxiously waiting for your range report though, I won't be buying one but it's still another NR option on the market and a good thing for our community.
 
Well this is half AK which is a 60 year old design, and half 540 which is a 50 year old design, nothing exactly "modern" about this bag of crap. Ohhh I can mount optics on it, so I can see how ####ty my groups are at 50m...big whoop. It's 7.62x39, not like it's effective range requires optics, unless you are blind I guess, or suck at shooting.

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So what? Then you have a crate of 60-year old rifles with mediocre accuracy and no optics mounting options, with salt-blued parts susceptible to corrosion- induced rust. You can also buy 1000 Tim Hortons' medium double-doubles (with change back) for $2k. You would be just as far ahead as you would with your brilliant SKS plan. What was your point again?

Seems to me that you had a pre-order in with Wanstalls before they reneged. The rifle that you wanted has only changed for the better with an improved trigger and stainless steel or nitrited gas--affected parts. So why all the hate?

I bought two for 1450 each , none at 2000$ . big difference....

My point , this gun not worth that , and your point ? match trigger will be awesome ???? with 12 moa ? ;P
 
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