No , cycles and ejects fine.
who hunts with 7.62 x 39 or the 6.5 Grendel?
- Thread starter Mr. Friendly
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No , cycles and ejects fine.
Yes , exactly.
Took a whitetail a couple years ago with a Cz carbine in 7.62x39 - hoping to someday try the 6.5 Grendel. Both should work fine within appropriate ranges on deer and coyotes. It should be said that I would not consider these to be a newbie hunting cartridge. If you're looking for a first deer rifle, there are much more appropriate choices (like a .308, .30-30, .270, 30-06 - naming these specifically because you can walk into any Walmart or sporting goods store in any city and find a decent range of factory ammo at a reasonable cost). It would be greatly preferable for a new hunter to buy a $200 sks and $200 worth of practice ammo than a savage axis package and 1 box of ammunition. Use what you can get and afford - just please practice lots before you hit the woods.
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- Steel Town and The Peg
Prvi Partizan (PPU) 7.62x39, 123 grain soft points. Effective to 150 meters.
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I use a Mini 30 with WW 129gr PSP. Close range -100yds, the worst ran 30yds. This year 25yds neck shot, buck just rolled over. If I ever leave the woods for more open country I'll use something else. As with any hunting, shot placement is the main issue.
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- Southern Vancouver Island
Perfect! Tee Hee!
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
Can't. Sold my '94 a while back.
And don't have the freezer space anyhow.
^^^Clarification: don't have the deep freezer space yet.
madtrapper143
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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Hi Paul. It was the one for Winchester 94. IIRC it is part number FP94/36. Any flat side will work. The part that needs attention is the depth or elevation amount of the sight. I have my FP installed so the graduated sight bar is pretty tall ( it has to be maxed out to get the sight mounting holes low enough to attach to the receiver) . I bottomed the sight on the dust cover (enough slack to remove for take down) and used the front for elevation adjustments. I was concerned that the sights slide factory holding screws would possibly fail so I d and t'd the slide and put in a 6 48 screw for good measure. Some what bubba but it shoots well and it is an SKS not a model 1886 Winchester. I attribute the fact that it shoots well to the fact the sight is mounted on the receiver rather than the cover.
Darryl
Darryl
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- British Canuckistan
is there a 7mm or 6mm variant of the x39 cartridge?
also, Slamfire...with your No 1 shooting that 155 bullet. are you confident in it's ability to drop a bull moose within 200 yards?
also, Slamfire...with your No 1 shooting that 155 bullet. are you confident in it's ability to drop a bull moose within 200 yards?
Hands down I`d hunt with a rifle chambered in 7.62 x 39. But not an SKS. I`d use a bolt action or break barrel. Given that the 7.62 x 39 is often times compared to a 30-30 I would want as much accuracy as I could get out something like a bolt gun. It would be scoped and a minimum of 20`barrel or a 22`inch barrel if it is available. I would try factory 123 grain loads but would also favor a hotter load with 150 grain bullets. So in other words get as much out of the cartridge as possible. With these perimeters in mind - that would be my set-up.
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there is, but it's based off a modified .308 cartridge.
I've Chrono'ed 7.62 Nato ammo in a short barreled rifle, the result, a 147 grainer @ 2520 fps, the 7.62x39 can do this with a bullet 22 grains lighter.
Load a Barnes or Woodleigh in the 7.62x39 and match the 7.62 NATO
1943: The Soviets develop and adopt the 7.62×39mm M43 cartridge and begin to field it.
Late 1950s: The#.220 Russian#hunting cartridge is developed, based on the military 7.62×39mm M43 design.
1984: Louis Palmisano and William B. Davis, PhD, develop the 6.5mm PPC from the .220 Russian for the US Shooting Team for use in bolt-action rifles in the 1986 world championships. While performance was exceptional, the US Shooting Team stays with 6mm. The 6.5mm PPC is shelved and never seen again, although Dr. Louis Palmisano believes the 6.5mm PPC could be a formidable competition cartridge with new sub-100 grain bullets.
1998: Arne Brennan, a competition shooter and founder of competitionshooting.com, designs and orders a 6.5 PPC reamer from JGS Tool optimized for AR-15 magazine length after conducting extensive theoretical study of multiple calibers and cartridge cases.
2000: Arne Brennan, after thousands of rounds of testing 6.5 PPC, compares notes with Dr Louis Palmisano (creator of the 22 and 6mm PPC cartridges).
Early 2002: Bill Alexander, an engineer who worked for the British Ministry of Defense and designer of the .224 BOZ, .499 L-W and .50 Beowulf cartridges, begins research on developing a 6.5mm Intermediate cartridge specifically for the AR-15. Eventually the 6.5mm PPC caught his attention as it would fit his existing high strength#.50 Beowulf#bolt. So he machined a solid brass 6.5mm PPC dummy round. It was a cartridge that was small enough to double-stack in an AR-15 size magazine.July
2002: American firearms journalist David M. Fortier and Bill Alexander share ideas for a 6.5mm Intermediate cartridge. Fortier shares his idea for a 7.62×39mm based cartridge for use in the Kalashnikov system. He shelves his idea, though, when Alexander shares what he is working on for the AR-15.
August 2002: Arne Brennan and Bill Alexander are introduced by a mutual acquaintance at Lothar Walther USA.
January 2003: Janne Pohjoispää, an engineer working for Lapua, and Bill Alexander begin working together on designing and finalizing what would become the 6.5mm Grendel cartridge. Pohjoispää decides against basing it on the PPC as Lapua is already producing .220 Russian brass. He redesigns it using Lapua's .220 Russian case as the starting point. The two bounce ideas off each other and finalize the cartridge. The end result is noticeably different than Brennan and Alexander's original 6.5mm-PPC-based design. The new design features a relocated shoulder, increased case capacity, and a thicker neck for increased case life in auto-loading rifles.
November 2003: Alexander Arms pays for the cartridge tooling and places an initial order for 50,000 brass cases. Also in November of 2003: JGS produces the first reamer for the new cartridge.
January 2004: Alexander Arms officially introduces their new cartridge, dubbed the 6.5mm Grendel, at the SHOT Show. They introduce both a line of rifles and ammunition.
May 2006: Independent#ballistic gelatin#testing completed for 90#gr (5.8#g) TNT, 120 grains (7.8#g) Norma, 120#gr (7.8#g) SMK, and 123 grains (8.0#g) SMK prototype.
Aug 2006: Pressure safe loading data is published for AR firearms with 14.5- to 28.0-inch (370–710#mm) barrels.
Feb 2007: Production#Wolf#brand ammunition becomes available. Wolf Performance Ammunition becomes a supporter of the cartridge and introduces both a 123 grain Soft Point and 120 grain Multi Purpose Tactical HPBT in their brass-cased Gold line.
Nov 2009: Hornady teams with Alexander Arms to produce 6.5mm Grendel ammunition, cartridge cases, and dedicated projectiles. They introduce a 123 grain AMAX load, which quickly gains a reputation for excellent accuracy.
Early 2011: Barnaul of Russia begins development of a 110 grain FMJ-BT load using steel cartridge cases. Preproduction cases are delivered for testing in the fall of 2011.
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
Now that would be a stunt. And quite possibly a tough tracking job. Best limited to Deer-sized game at that range.
