M+M CEO Considered Pulling M10X Rifle From Canada After Brouhaha - CDN Gun Blog
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Maybe the accurized XCR-M gas block qualifies? lol
Kool-Aid Mickey Mouse lol
I prefer to evaluate the evidence and make my own conclusion. M+M is an unknown American business which is an easy punching bag when going up against supposed trusted Canadian dealers.
Keep this in mind...
1. A year ago Can Am said M+M believed pricing on their Canadian marketed rifle would be $2k to 2400.
2. Even Can Am was surprised at Wanstalls prr-sale price.
3. M+M immediately stated the day of or day after the Wanstalls presale that they had not approved this price as MSRP for the Canadian market had not been set yet... they even stated the presale occurred before M+M learned their rifle was deemed NR in Canada.
4. With all the controversy... Wanstalls did not state for a month that "We did confirm pricing and eta with the President of M+M, before the pre-sale." Why would that not be the first words out of your mouth? Especially when M+M directly contradicts this from day 1?
I have all the statements from all parties as well as some private convos saved. M+M deserves some flak for some of tjeir decision making (icing out Can Am and the DMR stuff for example) but dont take the easy bait and condemn them for everything without examining all evidence.
I prefer to evaluate the evidence and make my own conclusion. M+M is an unknown American business which is an easy punching bag when going up against supposed trusted Canadian dealers.
Keep this in mind...
1. A year ago Can Am said M+M believed pricing on their Canadian marketed rifle would be $2k to 2400.
2. Even Can Am was surprised at Wanstalls prr-sale price.
3. M+M immediately stated the day of or day after the Wanstalls presale that they had not approved this price as MSRP for the Canadian market had not been set yet... they even stated the presale occurred before M+M learned their rifle was deemed NR in Canada.
4. With all the controversy... Wanstalls did not state for a month that "We did confirm pricing and eta with the President of M+M, before the pre-sale." Why would that not be the first words out of your mouth? Especially when M+M directly contradicts this from day 1?
I have all the statements from all parties as well as some private convos saved. M+M deserves some flak for some of tjeir decision making (icing out Can Am and the DMR stuff for example) but dont take the easy bait and condemn them for everything without examining all evidence.
So you are calling Wantsalls outright liars. Great. At least we now know your position on the fanboi spectrum (hard right). Here's their actual quote:
M+M discussed a price point of $2000-2400 with CanAm prior, and have stated otherwise in regards to Wanstalls.
So not sure what the outrage is...
IMO, Wanstalls either is outright full of crap (see CanAm pricing), or got something wrong in the pricing and was trying to save face. Either way, they helped kick start this drama.
The trolls and strawmen would have you believe some grave injustice is being perpatrated, and thus it's ok to use hyperbole and outright lies to slander people and establishments (one troll even now trying to drag SFRC and Tenda into the mix).
So not sure what the outrage is...
IMO, Wanstalls either is outright full of crap (see CanAm pricing), or got something wrong in the pricing and was trying to save face. Either way, they helped kick start this drama.
The trolls and strawmen would have you believe some grave injustice is being perpatrated, and thus it's ok to use hyperbole and outright lies to slander people and establishments (one troll even now trying to drag SFRC and Tenda into the mix).
Shin, Paul, and other Rational CGNers,
The usual M+M trolls are having one of their repetitive hate-fests in this thread. There is nothing to be gained from speaking the truth or trying to have a reasoned discourse with the same old handful of haters. They refuse reason and prefer to spew bile. You may as well move on and hope that their incessant stalking of M10X threads does not extend to every discussion of the new rifle. Just put them on Ignore - it works like a charm and filters out the asinine remarks of the haters trolls so that they don't distract from your enioyment of a discussion. Just saying....
The usual M+M trolls are having one of their repetitive hate-fests in this thread. There is nothing to be gained from speaking the truth or trying to have a reasoned discourse with the same old handful of haters. They refuse reason and prefer to spew bile. You may as well move on and hope that their incessant stalking of M10X threads does not extend to every discussion of the new rifle. Just put them on Ignore - it works like a charm and filters out the asinine remarks of the haters trolls so that they don't distract from your enioyment of a discussion. Just saying....
They are according to Mikey Mouse. Funny how only 3 dealers actually jumped on this after the whole fiasco.
Only 3 dealers on CGN, NS deals with hundreds of dealers across Canada, no doubt many of them ordered some in as well.
+1
The fanbois are literally blind. Based on everything so far, the least credible has literally been M+M. Especially with them using Canada Ammo and Wanstalls for help on the FRT and only to ditch them.
*note: I'm not against getting the M10x, and think it's a cool gun myself though. But thankfully there are other guns out there I don't mind getting instead at least so it's not the end of the world
. I'm a pretty impulse buyer, but after this crap haha, stuff from M+M in the future will definitely give me a pause before purchasing now.*
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How much does an M10X retail for in the US? I'll give you a hint...$1000-$1050USD.
Just straight across conversion that is $1285-$1350 CAD retail.
Retail means the shop selling already has their mark-up in that price, very easy to see WHY Wanstalls $1450 price made sense, and WHY NS $2000 price does not.
Unless you went to the North Sylva Technical School Of Grifting that is...then it all makes complete sense.
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He was probably referring to previous sale prices in the US by US retailers not the MSRP.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/com...m-m-m10x-7-62x39mm-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
That one was 1199.99 so I'm assuming there were lower.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/m10x-elite-762x39-ak-47-semi-auto-rifle
https://gun.deals/product/mm-m10x-e...-semi-auto-w-30rd-pmag-threaded-barrel-149999
They had the elite for 1099.99 I guess.
As per usual, more non-sense.
The only vendor with the current model rifle in stock, is Brownell's at $1249USD; which is aprox. $1603CDN (as of this post), making this rifle $396 more expensive than US retail. The rifle is sold out at $1199.95USD, giving us a differance of $459CDN.
This is not factoring the associated costs of bringing the product to a small international market, and the frontline vendor needing to make some marginal profit.
Man...what a scam...
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