Disdain for trophy hunting misguided

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roccoskeet said:
Every hunt is a trophy hunt to some degree. Even if it's geese and nothing gets mounted , just ate.
The trophy to many people is the memory of the hunt / quest.

I have not problem with a trophy rack ,head or full body mount. Who cares as long as the meat is utilized that is respectful to the animal and to others who would use that resource the same way.

I understand the logic to a bear generating more money alive than dead over time. That said harvested legally and using all parts of it , well , so be it.

Now here is the part I may get flamed over .....

When I see a show with "the lone hunter " I was 10 km from the nearest anything all by myself .......Here is a photo of me on my return trip home off the mountain .......And the only thing with him is his gun and a rack off the head ?
No pack horses full of the meat ?

I have no use for that !

That's BS in my books , if the only thing that came away was the rack.
Or a grizzly hunt that the only part taken was the hide.

If you don't like my view on that flame away .......Your probably not going to be on my BFF list anyway.
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not taking the meat is illegal most everywhere. your seeing a pic of one packing trip. the one with the better payload for a photoshoot.
 
cdn1canhunt said:
Let's put it this way, in the modern world we are all trophy hunters .. there are way cheaper and easier ways to get your meat than to hunt it, gut it, drag it, skin it and butcher it. Wild game meat, price by the pound is the most expensive meat on this planet. By the time you buy your tag, rifle, bullets, knife, boots and book a week off work to hunt it.

If you want a nice, easy to get steak then work a 1/2 extra day of overtime and pick one up on the way home.

In the end the kill is just one part of the trophy. The trophy is the experience and the memories you created during the hunt. The horns on ones wall are a way to honour the animal that allowed you the have the experience. Every time I look at the deer racks on my wall they remind me of the friends I was with, the track job to find and the drag to my truck more so than the size of the buck.

So when someone asks you if your trophy hunter..... "hell yes I am and, hell yes you are" ... cause every critter from moose to mice is a trophy if its hunted.
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if you do the math you should skip hunting. hunting is not about math ...
 
In my World, each 10plus year old Boar Grizzly Bear kill 2 - 6 Grizzly Cubs each year so a few Mother Sows come back into heat. From the 2018 spring Bear season on no more Grizzly "Trophy hunting" for those 8 to 11 ft. big Monster Grizzlies is legal in British Columbia.

Yep, Apes rule now the World, just to many overpaid doogooders around with no Life.

Cheers
 
medvedqc said:
if you do the math you should skip hunting. hunting is not about math ...
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Agreed and that is my point.....if you hunt for meat give it up...it's cheaper at the grocery store...hence all of us that hunt are hunting for a trophy. The trophy isn't defined by the number of points or inches, it's the experience we all so covet. Wheather its a new Hunters first deer or the experienced hunters 180" whitetail. The level of challenge just adds to the experience.
 
Every year I try to bring out a new hunter to the bush to discover the beauty of hunting, exploring new ground and seeing their happiness when they get their first deer... It always interesting to see them gut a deer for the first time and this takes a bit of time because it is a new experience to them. Support is provided so that they can become efficient at doing this part of the hunt. Then there is the dragging of the deer to the truck, bringing it home and butchering it up. I encourage them to share some of their meat and this ensures others can receive something that they not otherwise have access to. Sharing food is something that never grows old. Trophies are had from time to time but it's more about putting food on the table and sharing the experience with others. Hunting has been passed down in most societies for as long and men and women have walked the earth. One animal is taken so that another can live. It's cyclical and I expect it will continue for generations to come...
 
cdn1canhunt said:
...there are way cheaper and easier ways to get your meat...
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Slamfire said:
Not if you don't need to venture far from home to acquire it. I figure the Bull Moose I downed this past season is equivalent to about 4 grand worth of store bought beef and the cost to acquire it was only a few percent of that value. Plus it's organic. A windfall really. As well as a nice rack to display. :d
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cdn1canhunt said:
Did you buy a tag to hunt that moose? How about the cost of your rig to kill it, how much did you spend on ammo to sight in. How much were your boots, coat, gloves, knife to gut it. Did you use your 4 wheeler to drag it or or maybe a canoe or a boat oh ya gas??? Did you cost out your time and labour field to freezer??? Now do the math.
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cdn1canhunt said:
Agreed and that is my point.....if you hunt for meat give it up...it's cheaper at the grocery store...hence all of us that hunt are hunting for a trophy. The trophy isn't defined by the number of points or inches, it's the experience we all so covet. Wheather its a new Hunters first deer or the experienced hunters 180" whitetail. The level of challenge just adds to the experience.
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Considered all those things and assets utilized which I own for other purposes than just for hunting. My successful Bull Moose hunt this past season was more than just an economic advantage, it was a windfall. Eagerly looking forward to next season. Some of us here know what we're doing. ;)

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I'm a trophy hunter. Every single animal I have harvested has been a personal trophy for me and each of them elicited a broad range of emotions as important personal achievements tend to do. That said I've never gotten an animal that had spur, hide, or rack that would be impressive in the points and categories out there. That doesn't bother me in the least though.

prairie lover said:
I have yet to meet the guy/girl who would shoot the spiker standing beside the 180 class 6x6. or the 200 pound black bear beside the 450 pound. if you cant find the big one then ya take whatevers legal but don't judge someone who wouldn't.
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My Dad routinely would pass up the bigger animal for the younger when I was growing up hunting with him. He had a bad experience 'chewing on a tough old bull' and for the remainder of his moose hunting days he preferred to tag a young tender bull. It is something I think is valid and I certainly consider when hunting.
 
Rynnik said:
...had a bad experience 'chewing on a tough old bull' and for the remainder of his moose hunting days he preferred to tag a young tender bull...
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There are tougher cuts regardless of age. Mature animals are fine table fare nonetheless. There are methods (besides just grinding it :p ) to make the tougher cuts tender. My chef has the know-how. ;)
 
We all have our own motivations for hunting. The animal doesn't care if you are a trophy hunter, or meat hunter, whether you are proud or remorseful or annoyed. It doesn't care. I don't see why anyone else should.
 
It appears you have made the decision that your own opinion of Trophy hunting is the right one and apparently the only one. So enjoy your close minded ideas. I have already wasted too much time on trying to deliver a contrary opinion to someone that has no interest in anyones opinion than their own.

I am not running from an argument. There is just no point in continuing a discussion, as this was never discussion to be had by you. Only you stating your own self righteous, uneducated opinions on a topic you obviously know nothing about.

Enjoy your day
 
I enjoy a hunt and a big, mature animal with the best of them, but the term trophy hunter carries too much baggage for me to use anymore. The hunting needs to accept the reality that society is changing and we need exchange with it and talk in terms that are viewed positively.
 
patriot1 said:
Never once said you didn't.
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So what's the downside to "trophy hunting" then? I'm removing a mature buck that's done his breeding and you're removing a doe that produces offspring or a buck that hasn't done any breeding yet? We both eat. Seems to me like you're the one doing the damage. After all, it's the sustainability of the population we should be concerned about, no? I'm talking about a healthy population in an area, not one that's overpopulated.
 
bearkilr said:
So what's the downside to "trophy hunting" then? I'm removing a mature buck that's done his breeding and you're removing a doe that produces offspring or a buck that hasn't done any breeding yet? We both eat. Seems to me like you're the one doing the damage. After all, it's the sustainability of the population we should be concerned about, no? I'm talking about a healthy population in an area, not one that's overpopulated.
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Look, I'm not gonna argue with you cuz you know what you're doing and I don't. All I'm saying is I don't need or want a hide, mount or antlers. That means nothing to me.

Literally if I shot a buck that could be mounted or a black bear that I'd process to eat, I would give away the head and the hide. And some of the meat too.
 
prairie lover said:
BULLS%$# would you give away a 195 class typical whitetail that walks by your stand on the first time out. you would have it mounted in one way or another for your place of residence or office, or you would sell it for big $$$.
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You can sell those legally? Then yes I would.

I don't need that sort of gratification. I just don't.
 
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