Disdain for trophy hunting misguided
- Thread starter Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Farm-country deer are free to feast on any crop they find attractive, or on any other plant life which may be exposed to who-knows-what pesticides, herbicides, or other chemical goodies. My point was simply that they aren't like caribou or moose, which in most cases don't have access to that kind of forage. Their diets aren't as natural as we would like to think.
Lower fat, or poly-unsaturated fats vs saturated, when compared to beef? Of course that is true, but you can buy red deer (elk), bison and other meats which would be similar in their superiority to beef.
Guys, please don't get me wrong here; I am not denying the superiority of game meat to beef. I'm just saying that it is a bit ingenuous to espouse that as the main reason for hunting. Tell you what: Hoyt, Slamfire, Brad...anyone on this thread...let's say, for the sake of argument, that I promise to provide you with all the fresh game meat you could use: deer, elk, moose, whatever your preference may be. No restrictions, no cost to you, no limits, as much as you want, when you want it. Under those conditions...how many of you will quit hunting?
Lower fat, or poly-unsaturated fats vs saturated, when compared to beef? Of course that is true, but you can buy red deer (elk), bison and other meats which would be similar in their superiority to beef.
Guys, please don't get me wrong here; I am not denying the superiority of game meat to beef. I'm just saying that it is a bit ingenuous to espouse that as the main reason for hunting. Tell you what: Hoyt, Slamfire, Brad...anyone on this thread...let's say, for the sake of argument, that I promise to provide you with all the fresh game meat you could use: deer, elk, moose, whatever your preference may be. No restrictions, no cost to you, no limits, as much as you want, when you want it. Under those conditions...how many of you will quit hunting?
Three points;
1. I'm not quitting hunting.
2. Small farm Ontario is not like large crop prairies, NorOnt farmland deer are not getting into the nasties like they are around large cash crop operations.
3. I just prefer the taste of venison.
.... but I don't hate an aged Angus steak... or prime rib.
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True enough, ungulates living on cultivated land will have ingested pesticides and herbicides. But that stuff is on fruits and vegetables so is well established in the food chain but not hormones and antibiotics in game meat. Not that ingesting any more pesticides and herbicides would be a good thing. Anyhow I choose to hunt closer to or in the mountains. There wouldn't be much of a presence of or any pesticides and herbicides in game taken there.
Hunting down nutritious, delectable and organic wild game meat is a passion so I couldn't possibly take you up on your offer. I endeavor to hunt effectively and efficiently as well as close by in order to minimize time and cost to acquire this highly valued meat.
Hunting down nutritious, delectable and organic wild game meat is a passion so I couldn't possibly take you up on your offer. I endeavor to hunt effectively and efficiently as well as close by in order to minimize time and cost to acquire this highly valued meat.
powdermaker
CGN Regular
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- Saskatchewan
Good point......I believe it was the Sioux chief, Sitting Bull, who stated "when the buffalo are gone, we will hunt mice- for we are hunters".
I won’t be quitting hunting as long as I am physically capable of doing so... I hunt because it’s my passion and what I love to do most.... connecting with nature and participating in a time honoured tradition...
Whether one hunts for the meat or for a trophy is if no concern to me (as long as the animal
is taken legally)...... I have my views and personal ethics and don’t agree with some here in regards to theirs.... but it is not my place or the OP’s place to look down our noses at those legally participating in the hunt....
Problems don’t arise because people have points of view.... problems arise when people feel the need to try and force others to share them / look down on them when they don’t....
Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Where did I state I look down my nose at those legally participating in the hunt? Speak for yourself fellow!
As I have away's stated, "I hunt for the sole purpose to hunt"......the actual act and the art of pursuing". I find it most easy to fill a deer tag with any buck, therefore; to prolong my hunting season I search for the biggest mature buck I can hunt. If I cannot find that big buck, such as the end of this past hunting season, the tag remains in my pocket. Matching wits with a big old whitetail means more to me than anything else. Any year that I harvest a buck the meat is donated for the needy in society.
Well said
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Thanks, gents, for answering that question as I and all the rest of us knew that you would. Again, let me emphasize that I was not trying to be argumentative or divisive or judgmental; rather, I was hoping that some good explanations would be presented so that the more, ahem, Patriotic ones amongst us might have something to think about.
Brad, I love your "connecting with nature" idea; it's one I feel near and dear to, and which I use frequently in discussions with non-hunters. I once told a co-worker (a non-hunter leaning towards the anti- end of the spectrum) that going out and photographing animals as he suggested I do was the equivalent of going to a hockey game...but hunting was the equivalent of playing hockey. To his credit, he became much more thoughtful and less knee-jerk, much more receptive to the idea of hunting; I think I may get him out into the field yet!
God, they had thread in General topics and 2-3 guys said they keep the back straps, but feed the rest to the their dogs! I'm trying to not be the troll guy...it was hard to leave that one alone though.
I thought it to be a travesty myself.
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
Not unheard of. Have also heard that for some people wild meat isn't fit for human consumption because it isn't government-inspected. Could be some validity to this in areas where CWD is prevalent - needs to be inspected for that before consuming it.
Regulations state game meat wastage is unlawful. Nothing in the regulations about game meat being for human consumption only.
Antlerking
New member
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- British Columbia
Had a keeper of the land show me a picture of a monster buck his son had shot, he then said even the dogs wouldn't eat it! Also had another tell me they always had a few dogs running around the village when he was a kid in case hunting was not good! Looks like just part of the food chain for some!
KMG Canada
CGN Regular
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- Alfred, Ontario
Wow, this is some thread and just confirms how very diverse as hunters we are. I have quite a few trophies in my house that serve to remind me of past hunts and fantastic times had here at home and around the globe. Funny how trophy when used with sports, school accomplishments etc ... can have such a nice connotation to it and simply by putting it in front of hunting it takes on a negative tone to some. Like a lot of the guys on here hunting is my passion and has developed into the main focus of my life. I have spike buck antlers on the wall that remind me of one of the first hunts I ever went on as well some full mounts from Africa that remind me of great times spent learning to hunt in a completely different environment. The point is that we all have mementos around our houses that remind us of vacations, championships and dare I say it - hunting trips. To all those above in this thread that have tried to put their passion into words, congrats.
My wholehearted apologies..... had this confused with the thread patriot1 started earlier.... my mistake
+1 positivity points for the gun community.
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