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^^^ ah dude ,service matches are to out to 500 and most can ring the bell “all day” with “rack” rifles I have and have even done it with the c8 carbine all day with an elcan,
Those are rifles not ment for snipers , but built for dough heads that vote liberal.

I will agree on one thing though , terminal ballistics is a different story .
A shot on a fig 11 or 12 is not a human being fighting for survival.

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I have no doubt that "most can ring the bell “all day” with “rack” rifles" on "THE RANGE". But can you do it after humping a click or 2 carrying 70 pounds of kit in 100 degree F (38 degrees C) heat with bullets flying past your head, a machinegun firing next to you and your platoon sergeant yelling at you to move up!
 
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Ever cooked or eaten polar bear? Then again, given what the "atmosphere" could be like on a submarine, the smell might not have been a problem.

No Polar Bear meat. But I have eaten some pretty stinky bear meat from other species and I've also eaten some delicious bear meat...all depending on the season, diet of bear, care of meat, preparation, etc. I'm assuming that after a diet of sabotaged oily Norwegian sardines (see below), even bear meat might be welcome.

"For centuries many Norwegians have depended on fishing for a livelihood. So word spread quickly when the German occupiers requisitioned the years entire sardine catch from Oslo. Norwegian resistance quickly learned that the sardines were to become a part of a U-Boat’s standard rations, and passed the information to the SOE while requesting as much croton oil as the British could supply. When ingested, croton oil has a powerful laxative effect, inflicting the worst case of the runs one could possibly suffer. The SOE smuggled as much croton oil to the Norwegian Resistance as they could, who then passed it on to workers of Oslo’s fish canneries. The workers then dosed the vegetable oil used in canning the sardines with the croton oil.

The results of the sardine deception are not well known. It is unknown if the act of sabotage decreased the performance of the U-Boat fleet, and it is unlikely that a bad case of the runs sunk any submarines. However, the mere thought of 50 men enclosed in a cramped 200 foot long space airtight space all losing bowel control with only one available toilet is a truly horrifying thought. It was a small edge for the Allies, but small edges can make or break great empires."


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They say critters taste like what they eat. Foolhens taste like retsina once they start eating spruce buds. There's a definite difference between grass-fed and corn-fed beef.

If this is true, I imagine polar bear tastes like seal guts and misery, with a hint of suppressed rage. Strong fodder indeed when dispensed among a bunch of lonesome dudes sealed in a metal tube far from home...

One sub crew must have had a LOT of polar bear meat on board. Made 'em mean-crazy-mad. Here's the USS Kearny, topedoed by U-568 in October of 1941, two months before the US entered the war...

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All better, 1944:

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In fairness, she was depth charging the sub at the time. Guess if you wade into a fight, you'd best expect to get hit a little...
 
It is true that air superiority makes it possible for ground troops to win but without ground troops the best you can achieve is a stalemate. See WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.

Would you say that Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan were stalemates or losses? And a Hawker Typhoon in the process of being rebuilt to flying condition, check the cylinder banks of the Napier engine. In British Columbia of all p[laces!

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In my opinion they are all stalemates. North Vietnam only won when the US pulled its troops out. Korea definite stalemate, but it was a no win with China's involvement. Iraq and Afghanistan I would call stalemates even though the official war was won it sure doesn't seem that Won to me.
 
The example of the Napier Sabre they have at the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum is one huge marvel of engineering and manufacturing.

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H24 engine quite the beast. I understand they used to start it by dropping an explosive charge down a tube to turn the engine over. I also understand you never wanted to drop a second charge if the first didn't work.
 
A bit off topic-Ariel Square Four.In a way it was a motorcycle equivalent of Napier Sabre produced 1931-56.I have seen and heard few of those and imho it's the best sounding British bike engine.

I don't think it was ever used by military-far too complicated for field use,still a very beautiful bike.

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One of the absolute classic motorcycles.
 
They say critters taste like what they eat. Foolhens taste like retsina once they start eating spruce buds. There's a definite difference between grass-fed and corn-fed beef.

If this is true, I imagine polar bear tastes like seal guts and misery, with a hint of suppressed rage. Strong fodder indeed when dispensed among a bunch of lonesome dudes sealed in a metal tube far from home...

One sub crew must have had a LOT of polar bear meat on board. Made 'em mean-crazy-mad. Here's the USS Kearny, topedoed by U-568 in October of 1941, two months before the US entered the war...

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All better, 1944:

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In fairness, she was depth charging the sub at the time. Guess if you wade into a fight, you'd best expect to get hit a little...

Got to give the shipbuilders and Damage control boys credit. There are not many destroyers that took a hit like that and survived. That's one hell of a hole.
 
In fairness, she was depth charging the sub at the time. Guess if you wade into a fight, you'd best expect to get hit a little...

Yep, being shot at tends to cause one to shoot back. The incident was cited by Hitler in his declaration of war against the USA, 76 years ago to the day yesterday. U-568 had very nearly sank the HMCS Pictou during the same event.
 
I have no doubt that "most can ring the bell “all day” with “rack” rifles" on "THE RANGE". But can you do it after humping a click or 2 carrying 70 pounds of kit in 100 degree F (38 degrees C) heat with bullets flying past your head, a machinegun firing next to you and your platoon sergeant yelling at you to move up!

Yeah ok you win!

Funny I thought I made the context of that post clear

Remember every time a gunny picks a fight with another on cgn it makes trudeau’s Day

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And every time a member gets banned a libtard troll gets its wings
 
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I have no doubt that "most can ring the bell “all day” with “rack” rifles" on "THE RANGE". But can you do it after humping a click or 2 carrying 70 pounds of kit in 100 degree F (38 degrees C) heat with bullets flying past your head, a machinegun firing next to you and your platoon sergeant yelling at you to move up!

Agreed, but we're talking about the capabilities of the rifle generally, not specifically under combat conditions as you describe. A lot of us never had that experience and thank God for that!
Estimates of the number of rounds fired that actually hit the intended target in combat tell the story and the difference between shooting on the range and the two-way range.

"Anyone who says he has never known fear has never experienced automatic fire." General Omar Bradley. (and others ....)
 
... that had a real problem with cooling the inner cylinders.
Was said to be the rear cylinders......

Have to disagree.
I've had three, 49,55,58 and no such problem with any of them.
Not even the '49 iron head single exhaust outlet (per side) which was the sweetest ride of all three.
Of course I didn't pretend they were Ferraris.
 
Was said to be the rear cylinders......

Have to disagree.
I've had three, 49,55,58 and no such problem with any of them.
Not even the '49 iron head single exhaust outlet (per side) which was the sweetest ride of all three.
Of course I didn't pretend they were Ferraris.

So does "Oldstarfire" refer to the old one-lunger BSA 250 ? I had the Triumph equivalent, the Trophy 250 (1968)
 
Too much talking,not nearly enough pictures.

12 December 1939- Battle of Tolvajärvi took place during Winter War.In spite of 5 to 1 numbers superiority Russians lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tolvajärvi

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Meanwhile in occupied Poland German Army and Police forces are executing civilians since Semtember.On Dec 18 56 were shot in Bohnia.

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