Best Bolt Action Milsurp

But not about that-what I tell you-for me since then it's not too hard to determine for example 10 or 20 microns difference-just without any tools-only compare.

Anyone who can see a 10 to 20 micron difference can obviously see a beer cap at 1700 meters. This guy is obviously telling the truth!
 
And yes,if someone wants to see how the real sniper Mosin barrel's rear side(or rear end,anyway the chamber) should look like-it is exactly like this.
https://ibb.co/b8u55G


Also the barrel and a rifle are in this album(only the way it was looking like before 2015.01.01.,because as I said I lost my memory card,so now it looks slightly different because I had to make it looking like if it was from the warehouse because otherwise it was almost impossible to register even though I have friends in LRR (Licencing and permitting department-it's what acts the role of Canadian CFP in Russia),all because of the idiotic laws that don't allow anyone to make firearms or to repair and register the excavated ones,so anyway I was risking by doing this-but doesn't matter..Anyways check this out:
https://ibb.co/album/mSk5Aa


And yes,I am really bound on guns-that's why I even thought up a name for mine))
 
Honestly, I think he's a Canadian local typing these things for our entertainment. Bumse Xiao?

Either way I'm entertained.

Normally these threads get locked due to the one making the claims ends up thrashing about and yelling.

Also I've made up a new accuracy measurement.

MOA or Micron of angle.

In order to hit a beer cap at 1700 meters i recon that Mosin can hold 2 microns of angle I'll bet.
 
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Poor troll job. His native language is definitely not russian, they compose sentences in a different manner and use other English words to describe subject.
Train better.

 
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Ну и с хуя ли я не русский,э,канадол епть?Расскажи мне кто тут не русский,окэ?))
Or you want to hear that personally?I can give you my phone number if you want.Or you maybe need to see my passport with this conversation on the background?I don't give a f*** if you want I can do that.So any CLEVER thoughts or you don't have any?
 
Micron of angle???)))My goodness now just you entertained me!There are MOA-minute of angle and SOA-second of angle,holy cow!
BTW beer cap from the distance of 1700m is approximately 4-5 SOA,which is possible if the rifle is properly finished which I mean exactly 1 micron tolerances-exactly what I had measured in the bore of mine!Learn trigonometry guys))
 
And about some English words:
I hadn't seen
The difference between
The man who speaks about d***s
And the guy who talks about co**s!

And about the TNW-34(which is not a bolt action but anyway)-can anyone explain me why when I reloaded some rounds for my TNW-34 with nitro-penta instead of powder,I was able to shoot only 38 rounds and after that the gun collapsed?Besides it had the original barrel and original bolt,both manufactured in year 1941 on the waffenfabrik Suhl (dfb-41 marked)and as I obviously seen there were no complications for them as the original MG34 is able to shoot nitro-penta like normally(MG17 which was designed for nitro-penta rounds only has the same barrel length and thickness,and both barrels are made of exactly the same steel and with the same hardening as well)-and even extraction was like it should and of course the shattered part was the receiver!Because it was not original!So if anyone else knows the way how the MG34 is working (which means that anyway in fact it's receiver doesn't take part in the locking mechanism-because it locks using the bolt head's locking screwing-like lugs on the responding lugs inside the barrel extension nut which is attached to the barrel very tight),can you tell me how it's receiver cracked into 3 pieces??In the normal MGs it will be the last part to break and it's resource is almost unlimited!And as I know some of German machinegun crews were using the special S.M.K. l'spür verbessert(aviation enforced AP-tracer ammo with nitro-penta instead of gun powder)-I personally excavated the MG34 belts loaded with these rounds and they were working ok!Also there were multiple casings left with markings of Verbessert rounds and signs that showed the fact that they were fired from MG34!So in my case it simply shows the fact that all parts which are made nowadays are nothing but s***!
 
Micron of angle???)))My goodness now just you entertained me!There are MOA-minute of angle and SOA-second of angle,holy cow!
BTW beer cap from the distance of 1700m is approximately 4-5 SOA,which is possible if the rifle is properly finished which I mean exactly 1 micron tolerances-exactly what I had measured in the bore of mine!Learn trigonometry guys))


The world record 1000 yard group right now is 5 shots @ 2.69" shot with a custom bench rest 6mm dasher. That group was 12" from the bull and low right in the 8 ring.

You're claiming that you can hit a bottle cap at 1859 yards. That same gun used to shoot the current world record group would struggle to hit a 5" target at your claimed 1859 yards.
 
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The world record 1000 yard group right now is 5 shots @ 2.69" shot with a custom bench rest 6mm dasher. That group was 12" from the bull and low right in the 8 ring.

You're claiming that you can hit a bottle cap at 1859 yards. That same gun used to shoot the current world record group would struggle to hit a 5" target at your claimed 1859 yards.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good dit, comrade!

By the way, Nitro Penta is German for Pentaerythritol tetranitrate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentaerythritol_tetranitrate

Pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) is one of the most powerful explosive materials known, with a relative effectiveness factor of 1.66. When mixed with a plasticizer, PETN forms a plastic explosive. Along with RDX it is the main ingredient of Semtex.

So our good friend here seems to be shooting 5 seconds of angle at 1859 yards using 7.62x54R loaded with SEMTEX High Explosive as the propellant in a ground-dug 91/30 with a bolt head made of rebar.

This just gets better and better.
 
Micron of angle???)))My goodness now just you entertained me!There are MOA-minute of angle and SOA-second of angle,holy cow!
BTW beer cap from the distance of 1700m is approximately 4-5 SOA,which is possible if the rifle is properly finished which I mean exactly 1 micron tolerances-exactly what I had measured in the bore of mine!Learn trigonometry guys))

Because Trig is so helpful in the real world...not. And I get paid damn good to pay the trig game... computers do that crap now. It's like high end 'snipa' scopes... humans can't equal a computer for efficiency.
Methinks thou art full of Bull... just an unedumacated opinion of course.
 
And about some English words:
I hadn't seen
The difference between
The man who speaks about d***s
And the guy who talks about co**s!

And about the TNW-34(which is not a bolt action but anyway)-can anyone explain me why when I reloaded some rounds for my TNW-34 with nitro-penta instead of powder,I was able to shoot only 38 rounds and after that the gun collapsed?Besides it had the original barrel and original bolt,both manufactured in year 1941 on the waffenfabrik Suhl (dfb-41 marked)and as I obviously seen there were no complications for them as the original MG34 is able to shoot nitro-penta like normally(MG17 which was designed for nitro-penta rounds only has the same barrel length and thickness,and both barrels are made of exactly the same steel and with the same hardening as well)-and even extraction was like it should and of course the shattered part was the receiver!Because it was not original!So if anyone else knows the way how the MG34 is working (which means that anyway in fact it's receiver doesn't take part in the locking mechanism-because it locks using the bolt head's locking screwing-like lugs on the responding lugs inside the barrel extension nut which is attached to the barrel very tight),can you tell me how it's receiver cracked into 3 pieces??In the normal MGs it will be the last part to break and it's resource is almost unlimited!And as I know some of German machinegun crews were using the special S.M.K. l'spür verbessert(aviation enforced AP-tracer ammo with nitro-penta instead of gun powder)-I personally excavated the MG34 belts loaded with these rounds and they were working ok!Also there were multiple casings left with markings of Verbessert rounds and signs that showed the fact that they were fired from MG34!So in my case it simply shows the fact that all parts which are made nowadays are nothing but s***!

Believe it or not the MG34 receiver has been known to crack where the ejector plate bolts down to the receiver!
 
On the thread topic:

I really like the Steyr M95 in it's full length configuration for elegance and ease of use as a bolt action milsurp. I have a personal soft spot for enbloc-fed systems.

On the Mosin topic:

If you aren't convinced on their superiority by now, milsurps probably aren't for you
 
The world record 1000 yard group right now is 5 shots @ 2.69" shot with a custom bench rest 6mm dasher. That group was 12" from the bull and low right in the 8 ring.

You're claiming that you can hit a bottle cap at 1859 yards. That same gun used to shoot the current world record group would struggle to hit a 5" target at your claimed 1859 yards.

Well if it can't hit a bottle cap at 1859 yards then it isn't the best bolt action milsurp.
 
Chances of shooting a hole-in-one on a par 5 hole are considerably greater than hitting a beer bottle cap at 1700 metres. Golfers are notorious liars and BS artists though, MILSURP shooters not so much.;)
 
Well if it can't hit a bottle cap at 1859 yards then it isn't the best bolt action milsurp.

Too funny!!

I guess being a guy who has spent many years searching for accuracy with milsurp rifles I find Olegs claims to be hilarious.

Most milsurps will hold 1 moa with a mint bore and perfect bedding. I know that because I've tested gun after gun and kept records.

The problem with the oversized 30 Cal bullets is once the distances go way out there the lack of slippery bullets opens groups up quite a bit. They are still accurate BUT the target size has to be more realistic if one wants to make hits.

My swede Mauser match rifle will drive nails from 100 ro 600 yards but I can load modern 140 grain match bullets with a high BC.

My best Mosins will shoot well from 100 to 300 yards but they still shoot 2x the sized groups that any of my 6.5s will. The poor trigger pull of the Mosin makes real precise accuracy tough. Even my Finn Mosins with an improved trigger have poor triggers compared to say my Ross rifles.

At 600 yards the mosin groups open up as the wind really messes with the bullets available to load for it.

Anyhow this thread has been fun. We've all heard "500 yard running deer off hand" stories and stuff like that but this one takes the cake!!
 
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