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You should see the Juan(Portuguese pronounciation is je-uan) that got away! French trawler accidentally catches a Portuguese SUBMARINE in its net 30 miles off of Cornwall

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The 220ft navy attack sub was on training mission off Lizard Point coast
On its way to the surface having got caught in the net the sub hit the boat
Sailors on the trawler, Daytona, were unaware of 2,000-tonne sub below
Remarkably, neither fishing boat nor Tridente-class sub were damaged

She is a German type 214 sub.


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Another sad anniversary-Malmedy Massacre on Dec 17 1944

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Brits and Americans were wondering for a long time why Poles hate Germans so much.They stopped after Malmedy and many understood soon as Allied troops started discovering German work and death camps.

Many still refuse to believe such atrocities were happening everywhere Wehrmacht advanced from first days of September 1939 till very last days of III Reich.

Russians faced even worse fate but they had a chance for a payback and they took it.
 
FWIW....
The gentleman in my avatar is my father.
He was wounded five times during this action.
The citation reads.
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Good thing he hadn't read your post!
he was not hoped up on anything.
He led from the front.


bearhunter said:
S&L, I don't want to be condescending nor negative but I've seen men, women and children shot with everything from 9mm to 30mm. Of all the people I saw, I don't remember one of them that fought back, didn't become incapacitated in some manner. Even a graze had some pretty serious effects. Knife and bayonet wounds can be even worse. It definitely puts a damper on any individual's day and changes their attitude almost instantly. Now, that being said, it usually takes a bit for the hit to register if it isn't instantly lethal. I was hit with a ricochet and didn't notice it for a bit. But when I did, it was the only thing on my mind.

I have a scar from a bayonet that starts just below my balls and goes to just above my kneecap. That put me down instantly. It was like getting the worst Charly Horse that can possibly be imagined and no way to make it stop.

Other than not being overly realistic because those targets assume a full frontal/rear silhouette a hit in the vicinity they represent will certainly take a combatant out of the struggle. They might crawl away but they aren't fighting any more. This of course doesn't include a combatant hopped up on Heroin or some other readily available Opioide.
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Halger280HVMag said:
FWIW....
The gentleman in my avatar is my father.
He was wounded five times during this action.
The citation reads.
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Good thing he hadn't read your post!
he was not hoped up on anything.
He led from the front.
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I have no doubt certain individuals did such deeds and I thank your father for his service. It's just not something that happens in the vast majority of cases. Your father did something extremely unique. You should be and are proud of his determination and courage.

As for hopped up, Adrenalin is a great pain killer and motivator until it isn't.
 
FWIW, the soldiers of the Third Reich often WERE hopped up on Methamphetamine. German pharmaceutical companies invented meth, and until after the war, it was sold over the counter to German citizens and was issued to German soldiers similar to caffein tablets under the brand name Pervitin.

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Great article about it here:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/crystal-meth-origins-link-back-to-nazi-germany-and-world-war-ii-a-901755.html

Another here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hitlers-all-conquering-stormtroopers-felt-invincible-because-of-crystal-meth-style-drug-pervitin-10499087.html

the Nazi leadership was well aware of Pervitin’s value as stimulant during combat. After having tried it in 1939 during the German invasion of Poland, the German army subsequently ordered 35 million tablets of Pervitin for soldiers before advancing on France in the spring of 1940.
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The US Army, prior to the war, had procured samples of Pervitin and it led to them developing Benzedrene, also known as "bennies" - originally to keep airmen alert on long missions. Soldiers on bennies satyed awake for over 24 hours routinely, demonstrated a lack of fear, and were observed to press the attach with less regard for their own safety. Needless to say, it was effective and popular in WW2. It was even included in survival rations.

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Submariners were notoriously casual about uniforms. Lotta "whatever works" back in the day.

On a related note:

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Boarding party from the corvette H.M.C.S. CHILLIWACK alongside the German submarine U-744 at sea.
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Some additional background on that fight:
U-744 was forced to surface on 6 March 1944, after a 31-hour pursuit by British and Canadian ships. She was depth-charged by HMS Icarus, causing her crew to abandon her. They were picked up by the corvette HMS Kenilworth Castle, the Canadian frigate HMCS St. Catharines, corvettes HMCS Fennel and HMCS Chilliwack and destroyers HMCS Chaudiere and HMCS Gatineau in the North Atlantic. U-744 was then boarded by allied sailors, who retrieved code books and other documents. Most of this was lost while being transferred between the U-Boat and the allied ships. After attempts to tow the submarine into port failed, U-744 was scuttled by the allied warships
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Note the "laughing sawfish" insignia. Often credited to U-96, but it was actually applied to 11 boats in the 9th Flotilla.

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Claven2 said:
FWIW, the soldiers of the Third Reich often WERE hopped up on Methamphetamine. German pharmaceutical companies invented meth, and until after the war, it was sold over the counter to German citizens and was issued to German soldiers similar to caffein tablets under the brand name Pervitin.

The US Army, prior to the war, had procured samples of Pervitin and it led to them developing Benzedrene, also known as "bennies" - originally to keep airmen alert on long missions. Soldiers on bennies satyed awake for over 24 hours routinely, demonstrated a lack of fear, and were observed to press the attach with less regard for their own safety. Needless to say, it was effective and popular in WW2. It was even included in survival rations.
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The pilot that dropped the 500 lb bomb on the PPCLI in Afghanistan was said to be on "bennies" as were many pilots who made long flights to get to targets.
 
The tales that some ships, and the men who served on them, could tell...

The earlier pic I posted of the airplane taking off into a wave off the bow of the Ticonderoga got me curious about the ship, so I did some poking around. She was commissioned in WWII (at the time, the fastest carrier in the fleet), and remained in service until after the Vietnam war - quite the service life for an aircraft carrier. Poking around led me to discover her commissioning officer:

Captain Dixie Kiefer

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On 21 January 1945, Ticonderoga was hit by two Japanese kamikaze bombers. 144 men were killed and 200 injured. The first kamikaze hit started large fires among gasoline and planes in the hangar deck. Kiefer had port-side compartment deliberately flooded to put a 10-degree list on the ship. This caused the flaming debris to slide overboard - a procedure not used before. Then he maneuvered the ship to upwind of the burning wreckage.

A second kamikaze hit Ticonderoga later that day. The explosion from that hit injured Kiefer, with 65 wounds from bomb shrapnel and a broken arm. Nonetheless he remained in command on the bridge for eleven hours.
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ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Kiefer

...aboard the blazing aircraft carrier Ticonderoga, which was floundering so badly from kamikaze attacks that a query crackled over the wireless: "Are you going to abandon ship?" "Hell, no," was Kiefer's classic answer.
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ref: http://www.cv14.com/dixie_kiefer.html

There's bits and pieces and tales of Kiefer scattered around the net. Apparently, during his pre-war stint as a pilot, he was the first pilot to take off from a carrier at night. Stitching together his entire story... This was a pretty amazing man.
 
From Wiki about Dixie Kiefer

The crew of Ticonderoga said of him, "He's got so much metal in him the ship's compass follows him when he walks across the deck."
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Long ago I met guy like that-he was an artillery vet.His joke was "He had so much shrapnel in him he has ground himself when there is a thunderstorm".
 
donor said:
From Wiki about Dixie Kiefer



Long ago I met guy like that-he was an artillery vet.His joke was "He had so much shrapnel in him he has ground himself when there is a thunderstorm".
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I knew a Nam vet like that, grenade and mortar shrapnel. He had "the card" for airport security but still drove everywhere he went, claiming " it was quicker to drive half ways across the country than go through airport security.
 
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