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[Candocad]

Armored flight deck discussion;

http://www.armouredcarriers.com/deb...king-slade-and-worths-armoured-carrier-essays

Wow, one of the most interesting reads I have had this year. Spectacular level of information and in such detail!

Candocad.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Dixie Kiefer was quite the guy. I'm very glad such people walk the earth.

Talking carriers got me thinking about stuff many of us won't have seen. Like the Hawker Sea Hurricane.

Aboard HMS Victorious, 1942. They look pretty tired.

You're a young FAA pilot assigned to HMS Ravager, and you've had a bit of a prang.

The lads in the deck crew get you down and dusted off. You're given a cup of tea and a shot of rum. You have a moment to think. "Could've been worse."

...aaaand it's worse.

 

[shredder]

Somebody forgot to raise the barrier........

No rum for you!!!

 

[diopter]

 

[Rob]

 

[Ed Smurf]

They call it a what...."Bowse", Bowz, Bows?...silly Britspeak...but I'm no expert.

 

[Sharps '74]

Aboard HMS Victorious, 1942. They look pretty tired.

You're a young FAA pilot assigned to HMS Ravager, and you've had a bit of a prang.

The lads in the deck crew get you down and dusted off. You're given a cup of tea and a shot of rum. You have a moment to think. "Could've been worse."




Looks like the arrestor hook was attached to metal part of the airframe and not on the fabric covered part.

 

[Ganderite]

Dixie Kiefer was quite the guy. I'm very glad such people walk the earth.

Talking carriers got me thinking about stuff many of us won't have seen. Like the Hawker Sea Hurricane.

Aboard HMS Victorious, 1942. They look pretty tired.

You're a young FAA pilot assigned to HMS Ravager, and you've had a bit of a prang.

The lads in the deck crew get you down and dusted off. You're given a cup of tea and a shot of rum. You have a moment to think. "Could've been worse."

...aaaand it's worse.

I think the pictures are out of sequence.

The first picture should be the two of them. The second is the single plane, after the first was taken away.

Judging by the tail damage. The front plane was down and parked and the second plane missed the cable, or the cable broke and it ran into the one in front.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Good eye, Ganderite. I think you're exactly right.

That damage to the tailplane makes more sense that way...

 

[albayo]

They certainly park them close. LOL

 

[x westie]

Actually from what i have read , the Sea Hurricane was a pretty good carrier aircraft, due to it wide track landing gear, much better than the Seafire, whose narrow undercarriage was fragile, and tricky to land, the main drawback to the Hurricane was its short range

 

[Ganderite]

Actually from what i have read , the Sea Hurricane was a pretty good carrier aircraft, due to it wide track landing gear, much better than the Seafire, whose narrow undercarriage was fragile, and tricky to land, the main drawback to the Hurricane was its short range

I recall a pilot talking about flying over to Germany at night in a Hurricane and orbiting around airfields so he could pounce on a plane landing or taking off. He had a drop tank to give him useful time on station.

A Merlin on full power burns a gallon a minute, so a 100 gallon tank does not last long.

But I don't recall these tanks being used for other missions. Seems strange for a plane that only carried a couple hours of fuel.

 

[CV32]

I recall a pilot talking about flying over to Germany at night in a Hurricane and orbiting around airfields so he could pounce on a plane landing or taking off. He had a drop tank to give him useful time on station. A Merlin on full power burns a gallon a minute, so a 100 gallon tank does not last long. But I don't recall these tanks being used for other missions. Seems strange for a plane that only carried a couple hours of fuel.

IIRC, the drop tanks began to see most use from Spring 1941 aboard the Hurricane IIB, in which case the options were typically a pair of 45 Imperial gallon wing tanks or a 90 ImpG ferry tank. Only the former would have regularly seen use in the combat mission role, and were usually dropped before actually going into combat.

 

[diopter]

Interesting info on aviation gas octane levels during WW2 from the major combatants.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.military/ZEEcV3tGLB0

 

[farshot]

Great read on the fuels. That such progress and innovation the field of gasoline manufacturing occurred in such a short time is simply amazing. Also, it shows how the resources and of North America were an important factor in ultimate victory.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Speaking of octane, ever notice that lil' triangular marking on German aircraft? On an ME-109, it's just behind the cockpit...

On the FW190, it's in a couple of places on the fuselage...

Ditto the JU87.

Posted next to fueling points. There's a number there indicating appropriate octane for that aircraft.

This enormously trivial bit of information brought to you by Dark Alley Dan.

 

[diopter]

Not so trivial when you remember they also had diesel fueled motor aircraft.

 

[parksb2]

Posted next to fueling points. There's a number there indicating appropriate octane for that aircraft.

This enormously trivial bit of information brought to you by Dark Alley Dan.

Any idea what museum this is in? Wiki and search fu failed me.

 

[diopter]

Any idea what museum this is in? Wiki and search fu failed me.

Jonathan Cardy at RAF Museum Hendon

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Jonathan_Cardy_at_RAF_Museum_Hendon

 

[parksb2]

Jonathan Cardy at RAF Museum Hendon

Thank you !