I live in Sarnia, and it does sound like WW3 from 715 until dark. However being a fellow hunter I had not idea you could legally hunt that close to the blue water bridge. Not sure if I am for it or against it. I would love to park my boat against Canatara park on the Canadian side and blast divers all but Iam sure I would get a visit from the OPP. It seems the Americans do have a little less stringent hunting zones near cities. I field hunt outside Sarnia and I have to get written permission from the farmer, and even at that you can expect the police to show up.
Canadian feathers ruffled by gunshots from U.S. duck hunters
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Sure are a lot of assumptions and buzzwords in this thread (typical of most threads on this forum, really). Nowhere in the article do I get the information that they people who are fed up by the disruption are Liberals. They could just as easily be god-fearin' CPC loyalists who have young children getting woken up, who work graveyard shifts and need to sleep during the day, or are trying to just enjoy some peace and quiet on the property they paid good money for, etc. Live and let live?? That does have to work both ways, ya know. I'm pro-firearms and pro-hunting, but honestly, if people were popping off hundreds of rounds in my backyard for weeks at a time, I think I'd get pretty sick of it, too. The woman's comparison to Syria is bull####, yes, but she has apparently tolerated the hunting every year for 28 years... but now that she's had enough, she's a libtard snowflake, huh. Someone isn't a ####ing snowflake just because they don't want an outdoor shooting range on the other side of their fence. Give your heads a shake...
Jeebus! WTF is wrong with some folks? The hunting (or shooting) has likely gone on for years and now a few miserable people complain. Every year the hunters are in Cooks Bay and gunshots are the norm. I know of nobody who complains. With the massive amount of subdivisions going in and folks moving here from the GTA I expect that the wusses will be spouting off soon enough. I lived a few klicks from CFB Borden and there was rarely a week go by without hearing heavy machinegun fire. Nobody complained. I would have my house shake when the boys would detonate HE as the ground in the area was rather soft. Others had the same experience, no complaints. Yeah, send those whiners somewhere to experience real terror and life altering consequences. They need a good #####slapping reality check.
Nice sermon, guess that's everybody told. Thanks, now we know what our opinion is allowed to be. sarc off
No need for sarcasm. The simple fact is why should one (or a few) disgruntled people be allowed to halt the sport of numerous others? Why should anyone in another country give two shakes of a ratsazz what some #####in' foreigners have to say? If she has had enough of a legally sanctioned activity then its time for her (or them) to move. For lack of a better word, they are snowflakes.
haha, you're "sarcing" welcome.
My post points out that a lot of the dumb #### posted in this thread had zero basis in the article as published, and that most people's comments were just repeating echo-chamber buzzwords. And by all means, your opinion is your own. I just think it's ridiculous to instinctively insult and side against someone just because they say one unpleasant thing about guns or shooting or hunting. We, in trying to make inroads with your average Canadian who doesn't participate in shooting sports, will never succeed in gaining their trust and acceptance (and therefore greater freedoms for our hobby) if we are automatically insulting and dismissive of literally ANY concern they might have. Such a demeanor will not bring them over to OUR side, for sure.
I look forward to someone trying to articulate why I'm wrong in that way of thinking.
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1963beretta
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F@ck that....she deserves a merganser
1963beretta
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You have a very valid point. Unfortunately for her, I’m sure hunting in that area likely pre dates her existance there. I’m a big believer that if you are not happy with your current circumstances, then you need to make a decision on how you can better what ever is causing a grievance. In her case, she chose to complain about whats causing her a grievance. In my mind, a complaint only serves to one end and thats hoping your complaint results is compliance to your expectations. The only way to satisfy people like this is to stop the activity in question. And for this reason, I cannot sympathize for these people. If you dont want to listen to the sound of a train, move away from the train tracks. If you dont want to hear the sound of traffic, move away from the freeway. If you dont want to hear......im sure by now you get my point.
So, let me try to get this straight.
In your initial post people who hold a different opinion than yours need to " give their heads a shake". Your second post suggests people should be tolerant of other opinions, for the the good of the sport, of course. Which lane are you in?
All the while the tone of the article was about American gun culture and how much it disturbs the peace of Canadians.
I hear what you're saying, and in your examples of the train tracks and the freeway you're bang on (those can't just stop being what they are, same as living under the flight path of an airport), but the logical end result of taking that approach in all cases where people's choice of activity is the question is that, eventually, no one can live next to anyone or anything else. We'll run out of places for people to move to. We'll have to start regulating EVERYthing because no one will be able to "just move away from stuff" anymore. Not to mention, what about "we were here first" syndrome - that could be used to purposely antagonize an "undesirable" neighbor with the argument that "if ya don't like it, then move". I don't think that's the appropriate solution for things like this. If she's been there for 28 years, and there's been hunting every season, and she never had cause to complain like this, then good on her. My take on this is that THIS year, it's waaaaaay worse than normal, and that's what's caused her to pipe up. I mean, even the owner of the bait shop on the US side said he totally understands the Canadian concerns, since some of the Americans in his town were bothered by it, too. Clearly, it's excessive if the Americans are complaining LOL
BTW, I appreciate you posting a level-headed reply and making a point to be discussed. Cheers!
Valiant effort.
Again, here's what I said:
I never said that if someone's opinion was different than mine, they were wrong. In fact, I didn't compare my opinion to anyone else's at all. I did call out the tendency to vomit out anti-left buzzwords just because someone said something negative about an experience with firearms. I did call out the assumptions that were being made in some of the comments, but that had no backing from the actual article. I did point out that "live and let live" has to work both ways, and that if we aggressively oppose any nay-sayers to our hobby, we entrench their negative view of us and what we do - we figuratively shoot ourselves in the foot. So based on all that, if someone holds an opinion that is solely informed by their 'gut' and not by 'facts', then yeah, they need to give their head a shake.
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My mistake, sorry, I missed the nuance of only having to shake ones head if failing to interpret the facts the same way you did. Nothing at all like an opinion. Carry on.
Interpreting facts to form an opinion is a completely different thing from formulating an opinion based on "facts" that you imagine to suit the narrative you wanna comment about. It's unfortunate you can't see the difference. But hey, at least you can always fall back on sarcasm when you have no actual argument.
Have a good night.
1963beretta
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Id soon rather people run out places to move to than hunters running out of places to hunt. In my ideal world, the two can take place in the same place. The few weeks she needs to tolerate gun shots pales in comparison to the many months hunters have to wait to pursue their game, not to mention the many dollars and sacrificed time one puts into his/her hunting season.
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Well after I read the article and made my first post in this thread I wrote a letter to the editor about the good whiny folks in Sarnia and what I thought of their complaints etc. knowing I may fully ruffle a few feathers of relatives of mine living there who have waterfront property in the area as well. Well it worked! All the way to my sister living in Gatineau, QC who by the text I received seems a tad miffed.....anyone want to see my look of concern?!! 
Chuckbuster
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Well after I read the article and made my first post in this thread I wrote a letter to the editor about the good whiny folks in Sarnia and what I thought of their complaints etc. knowing I may fully ruffle a few feathers of relatives of mine living there who have waterfront property in the area as well. Well it worked! All the way to my sister living in Gatineau, QC who by the text I received seems a tad miffed.....anyone want to see my look of concern?!!
Gold Jerry, Gold!
