Best 1911 in 9mm

[personaguru]

id look at irunguns you wont find better prices
http://www.irunguns.com/product.sprgfld-9mm-ro-elt-oper-5-9rd
http://www.irunguns.com/product.dan-01893-specialist-9mm-ss-10rd
http://www.irunguns.com/product.czu-v-bob-9mm-425-9rd

comander works best to much meat on goverment slide for reliability in 9mm im in the market for one my self

 

[cadgo]

Well, according to a recent post by North Sylva a DW Valor that is $2012 MRSP in the US is $3916.00 CAD here in Canada.

Must be those special "you're buying a gun in Canada" fees.

Thought that only applied to non restricted black rifles...

 

[gdawg]

Took the plunge and went with the Springfield RO in SS!
... and now I wait

Great choice. You won't regret spending a little more to get exactly what you want. The wait will be short as transfers from retailer tend to be fairly quick.

 

[Antoine22]

For the price point. I really liked the Saraphim line of 1911's. Think of all the ammo that you can buy with the money that you will save.

Well, you're not getting the best 1911 then. You're getting an inferior product made in a shady factory for a lower price.

 

[ekp]

https://www.wanstallsonline.com/fir...aditional-match-elite-9mm-stainless-5026.html


Slightly over budget but this is one of the ones I'm still debating getting vs the colt not sure if you saw it or not.

Does anybody have opinion about that Sig vs no-Sig ? It looks quite loaded, but not often recommended. Any particular reason ?
I'm thinking about that gun for IPSC.

 

[Trinimon]

Does anybody have opinion about that Sig vs no-Sig ? It looks quite loaded, but not often recommended. Any particular reason ?
I'm thinking about that gun for IPSC.

I personally liked the Sig. A CGNer mentioned in another thread his had issues jamming etc. Not sure if he sold it or got it sorted out. The only reason I don't have the Sig and went with the SA RO was because the Sig was sold out everywhere and if I had to do it over, I would have waited and spent the extra $300 on the Sig at the time. Just under 2yrs ago, that Sig 9mm 1911 was selling for just over $1200. But that's just my opinion.

 

[gdawg]

Does anybody have opinion about that Sig vs no-Sig ? It looks quite loaded, but not often recommended. Any particular reason ?
I'm thinking about that gun for IPSC.

I'm sure the Sig will be on par with the Colt and the Springfield. Aesthetically speaking, I only like the traditional models like the one you linked to. Not a fan of the sculpted slides on the regular Sig 1911s, but that doesn't affect anything other than holster selection maybe.

 

[Brewster20]

If you're planning on competing, forget the 9mm (inherently inaccurate) and go with .45 you won't be sorry. STI Trojan used to be a good deal.

 

[gdawg]

If you're planning on competing, forget the 9mm (inherently inaccurate)

No, not sure where you are getting your info but that is not correct.

 

[ekp]

If you're planning on competing, forget the 9mm (inherently inaccurate) and go with .45 you won't be sorry. STI Trojan used to be a good deal.

I'd stay with 9 mm, minor is fine at my opinion. But gun has to be 100% reliable, like CZ.

 

[crazyjackrabbit]

9mm 1911s are just fine... Just the hole is harder to see lol.. my inexpensive RIA 1911 GI in 9mm is plenty accurate even with gi sights.

 

[Brewster20]

No, not sure where you are getting your info but that is not correct.

In my own experience shooting bullseye for years, all of the guys with 9mm's had accuracy issues. Sigs, CZ's 1911 etc. During our competitions, 1911's in .45 usually came in second to very specialized S&W 52's and Model 14's.

 

[gdawg]

In my own experience shooting bullseye for years, all of the guys with 9mm's had accuracy issues. Sigs, CZ's 1911 etc. During our competitions, 1911's in .45 usually came in second to very specialized S&W 52's and Model 14's.

I certainly can't refute your direct experience but wonder if there were other consideration. There are some very accurate 9s out there (952PPCs, Level 1 X5s&6s, P210s, AMU Berettas, CZ TSs..). Never heard of the 9mm being call inherently inaccurate.

 

[ekp]

In my own experience shooting bullseye for years, all of the guys with 9mm's had accuracy issues. Sigs, CZ's 1911 etc. During our competitions, 1911's in .45 usually came in second to very specialized S&W 52's and Model 14's.

By all means I'm not an expert, but I recall that I did read that 9 mm Luger is not a best cartridge for bullseye shooting. That can be compensated by gun, but that comes with the price. And this is probably a reason why 45 cal dominated NRA matches. Plus - a bigger hole.
But I'm speaking about combat accuracy and 9 mm is more than adequate for that. It's more about gun reliability and at every match I see 1911 jamming with lost stage as a result.

 

[gdawg]

I recall that I did read that 9 mm Luger is not a best cartridge for bullseye shooting.... - a bigger hole.

That is my understanding as well. Bigger hole is an advantage when scoring. Not related to the inherent accuracy of the cartridge.

 

[1riot1ranger]

It depends on the type of competition.

I can’t comment on bullseye shooting, but for IPSC the 9mm is better than .45. This is mostly a function of cost/benefit. You can buy a lot more 9mm for the same $ as .45. Ammunition and practice will usually (always?) trump mechanical advantage. (And yes, 9mm scores Minor vs the .45 scoring Major... but the 10 round Minor vs 8 round Major issue is well beyond this thread).

A 1911 in 9mm is an excellent choice for a competition firearm. You can rock in IPSC CD or IDPA ESP. And probably do OK in any sort of bullseye match.

And as the owner of 2 Sig 1911s, I’d recommend the Springfield or Colt Competition. Also, consider S&W.

 

[johNTO]

Hello all!
So, I have narrowed down the calibre (9mm) and the style (1911), and now need to settle on make/model. Any suggestions (top end $1300)?
Thanks!

Tenda has a 9mm Colt Competition($1309.99)...or go in the opposite direction for a Norinco NP29 with holster&pouch($339.99) leaving you $970 for ammo. Both in-stock.
All depends on what you're going to do with it and if you want to impress anyone.....

I see you're in the GTA...go for a ride and fondle them

 

[ekp]

It depends on the type of competition.



And as the owner of 2 Sig 1911s, I’d recommend the Springfield or Colt Competition. Also, consider S&W.

Interesting. Could you elaborate your experience for me please ?

 

[1riot1ranger]

Interesting. Could you elaborate your experience for me please ?

I bought a Sig 1911 .45 ACP in 2009 for use in IPSC. I put 1500-2000 rounds through it in preparation for my Black Badge and 700-800 round through it during the course. Before the course was complete I was getting hammer follow. The hammer/sear were worn out after less than 3k rounds.

I replaced the ignition parts with Cylinder and Slide and the problem was solved.

Maybe things at Sig are better now, but the gun I bought (new) has crap internal parts. Frame, slide, and barrel seem to be OK, but my confidence in Sig was shaken. A new gun owner shouldn’t have to drop $300 on new parts in his gun after 3000 rounds.

Since that time, I’ve owned 3 STI 1911s and they have all performed exceptionally in comparison. My other Sig has STI ignition parts now.

Based on that, I tend to look to the IPSC crowd (which I am part of) when it comes to discussions of reliability and durability in handguns. Most other handgun owners don’t put enough rounds through their guns to really offer an informed view on how their pistols hold up.

In competiotion I’ve seen mostly STIs and Springfields. The S&Ws were popular with the South Africans. And Sig was used by those sponsored by Sig. The Colt offering is a bit too new to comment, but I’ve seen a few at matches and they seem ok. Time will tell for Colt, but it looks promising - especially if the price holds.

One caveat to the above - Sig now produces a Doug Koenig model 1911 with a DK hammer and an EGW sear. This is a competition tested setup that is truly excellent. I would not hesitate to recommend or use that one, specific, model of Sig 1911.

As always, YMMV.

 

[ekp]

I bought a Sig 1911 .45 ACP in 2009 for use in IPSC. I put 1500-2000 rounds through it in preparation for my Black Badge and 700-800 round through it during the course. Before the course was complete I was getting hammer follow. The hammer/sear were worn out after less than 3k rounds.

I replaced the ignition parts with Cylinder and Slide and the problem was solved.

Maybe things at Sig are better now, but the gun I bought (new) has crap internal parts. Frame, slide, and barrel seem to be OK, but my confidence in Sig was shaken. A new gun owner shouldn’t have to drop $300 on new parts in his gun after 3000 rounds.

Since that time, I’ve owned 3 STI 1911s and they have all performed exceptionally in comparison. My other Sig has STI ignition parts now.

Based on that, I tend to look to the IPSC crowd (which I am part of) when it comes to discussions of reliability and durability in handguns. Most other handgun owners don’t put enough rounds through their guns to really offer an informed view on how their pistols hold up.

In competiotion I’ve seen mostly STIs and Springfields. The S&Ws were popular with the South Africans. And Sig was used by those sponsored by Sig. The Colt offering is a bit too new to comment, but I’ve seen a few at matches and they seem ok. Time will tell for Colt, but it looks promising - especially if the price holds.

One caveat to the above - Sig now produces a Doug Koenig model 1911 with a DK hammer and an EGW sear. This is a competition tested setup that is truly excellent. I would not hesitate to recommend or use that one, specific, model of Sig 1911.

As always, YMMV.

Interesting, thank you.
Actually people complained about low quality internal MIM parts on sigs while ago.
I actually regret that I didn't get Trojan while I been in halifax at nationals, $1400 if I am not mistaken. Now it is 2300 + safety + mag well , around 3k after tax.