If you don't ship using Canada Post, who do you use?

northfork said:
WTF.....confused is right. Does the insurance still cover loss and damage or not?
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That is what we are trying to determine. Ted has been told no for damage. I have been told no change so yes for damage
One of us has been given bad information or information that may only apply to our location in this country
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
WFT are you talking about. Key words what does well known in the local shooting community have to do with this, he knows what he was given no more
I spoke to a manager at canada post in Ontario that looks after their liability insurance do you not think they should know of this change and he does't
Having worked for the federal government for over 25 years it would not be the first time something was issued to a province or territory and not applicable to the rest of the country.

I have been paid four claims for firearm damage and know of two others that were also paid for damage so it is/was real

This is not an attack on Ted and I have every right to question it when my postal office has no record of this change nor does the central group I phoned and I continue to pay insurance weekly on firearms being told they are insured for both loss and damage

It is important that we get to the bottom of this and find out which one of us has been given bad information. I am quite sure Ted would not be upset if we find out they are still insured for damage also

Right now no one here really knows one way or the other
Your salts don't count here since from whitehorse you may fall under the same document as Ted does one central cannot find a copy of because I cannot give them the number. Doesn't mean this is applicable for the rest of canada because right now it sure isn't in my province or if it is no one knows including the group in Ontario

If Ted can supply that number in the picture that would help big time. It is important enough to canada post that he gave me his direct contact information to send it on or would like to talk to Ted's post office directly which is not something they normally do

I will say it again this is NOT AN ATTACK on Ted
Cheers
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the manager of the Canada post outlet (not Yukon Post...) told to Ted what is happening and even let him take a picture of it. that manager is well known as a shooter and will not do anything to harm the shooters is what i meant.

now you are telling us that you link are telling another story which is great for you.

in the case something is happening to you starting today and you are not getting what you are entitled to get because you spoke with someone, i wish that day you are not coming to cry because Canada post will not fix the broke parcel .... and im not talking in the past ...

oh no you did not attack Ted for sure ... you questioned what he posted like it was an imaginary story ...
 
I had a gun damaged in shipment from a dealer. They (the firearms dealer) took care of me immediately and indicated that they would be filing a claim for damages. I received a questionnaire from CP regarding the damaged shipment, so I must assume that the shipment was insured, either separately or as part of some blanket policy. I never heard anything more from either the retailer or CP.
 
medvedqc said:
the manager of the Canada post outlet (not Yukon Post...) told to Ted what is happening and even let him take a picture of it. that manager is well known as a shooter and will not do anything to harm the shooters is what i meant.

now you are telling us that you link are telling another story which is great for you.

in the case something is happening to you starting today and you are not getting what you are entitled to get because you spoke with someone, i wish that day you are not coming to cry because Canada post will not fix the broke parcel .... and im not talking in the past ...

oh no you did not attack Ted for sure ... you questioned what he posted like it was an imaginary story ...
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Not today it started in April 2017, then revised again in jan 2018 from what Ted was told

All we need is the number off that doc and we can put this to bed for good.Do you know how many mangers CP post has much more than the individual in charge of liability insurance who knows nothing about this . Try to think about that. This manager you speak of is he located up north??

Do you not think their central location that deals with all canada post issues would know about this or the changes would have been listed in the jan 1 2018 document with all the other revisions. But it is not. Five different canada post employees on various levels tried to locate that document and could not. WHY. Six counting my local post master

Honestly I could not careless what you think it impacts what I do on a regular basis and I have the right to get it clarified.

I said it very clearly this is not an attack on Ted from my first post and if you cannot grasp that nothing I can do to convince you. I believe 100% what he had been told but I am not convinced it is accurate at this stage

No where did I say it was an imaginary story but I sure believe one of us is being feed some misinformation. I have a lot more to do with my time than sit and wait for canada post to pick up the phone or tell stories here. This impacts what I do to keep a cash flow for my hobbies so I will keep digging but without that 4 digit number little more I can do
They tried searching it by the heading, what we thought the number was etc and found nothing
 
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i am ending with it.

for all that think they can still insure and get what they want in case something is happening that is great for the others we need to find a different to get stuff shipped ...
 
medvedqc said:
i am ending with it.

for all that think they can still insure and get what they want in case something is happening that is great for the others we need to find a different to get stuff shipped ...
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If you are not going to help fill your boots
It is not about what we think it is what the canada post policy is for 2018. One version is right, one is wrong or they are both right pending where we live in this big country
Cheers
 
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Good evening, Gentlemen.

I am out of the country at the moment, and will not be in Whitehorse for several more days. In the meantime, here's all I can find on the Canada Post website about the main office in Whitehorse.

WHITEHORSE CENTRAL PO
300 RANGE RD
WHITEHORSE YT Y1A 2B0

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/fpo/personal/findPostOfficeDetail?outletId=0000165913

No phone number listed 3macs1, but your friend can surely contact someone with that info.

Hope this is helpful. I am also looking forward to what you find out.

Ted
 
Why not? said:
Good evening, Gentlemen.

I am out of the country at the moment, and will not be in Whitehorse for several more days. In the meantime, here's all I can find on the Canada Post website about the main office in Whitehorse.

WHITEHORSE CENTRAL PO
300 RANGE RD
WHITEHORSE YT Y1A 2B0

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/fpo/personal/findPostOfficeDetail?outletId=0000165913

No phone number listed 3macs1, but your friend can surely contact someone with that info.

Hope this is helpful. I am also looking forward to what you find out.

Ted
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Hi Ted
Thank you for chiming in
If ok with you I will wait for your return for that document number if possible. That is what they would like to have. If you cannot read it from your pic then I will send the post office info which I assume is where you seen the doc
This guy at canada post I don't know I was trasferred to him after speaking to a couple of agents and a supervisor at canada post In Ontario who told me he is in charge of handling the liability insurance for canada post and could answer my question. He could not but wanted to see that doc so I told him I would try to get the number

Like I said to the other member Ted I believe 100% what you posted and were told just cannot grasp why I cannot find anyone on this end or in central CP that knows anything about it and I get a totally different version
Thanks again and we will talk when you return
Cheers
 
medvedqc said:
i am ending with it.

for all that think they can still insure and get what they want in case something is happening that is great for the others we need to find a different to get stuff shipped ...
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Some of us don't have other options. Here it's CP or nothing.

The whole "air stage" shipping of firearms with CP is nonsense anyhow. I've sent firearms into the arctic with Expedited parcel and there are no roads, so it has to go by air. I've also sent parcels Expedited from Winnipeg to Vancouver, and they were in transit under 20 hours. That's not happening if it's going ground.

The best way to go about this is to send an email. Phone calls don't work, it becomes a "he said, she said" type thing if SHTF with a lost or damaged firearm. These days you need things in writing.


FYI, the top of the document Ted posted reads:

Products and Services Specifications-3649-Parcel Services Shipping within Canada
 
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3macs1 said:
Hi Ted
Thank you for chiming in
If ok with you I will wait for your return for that document number if possible. That is what they would like to have. If you cannot read it from your pic then I will send the post office info which I assume is where you seen the doc
This guy at canada post I don't know I was trasferred to him after speaking to a couple of agents and a supervisor at canada post In Ontario who told me he is in charge of handling the liability insurance for canada post and could answer my question. He could not but wanted to see that doc so I told him I would try to get the number

Like I said to the other member Ted I believe 100% what you posted and were told just cannot grasp why I cannot find anyone on this end or in central CP that knows anything about it and I get a totally different version
Thanks again and we will talk when you return
Cheers
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bearkilr said:
Some of us don't have other options. Here it's CP or nothing.

The whole "air stage" shipping of firearms with CP is nonsense anyhow. I've sent firearms into the arctic with Expedited parcel and there are no roads, so it has to go by air. I've also sent parcels Expedited from Winnipeg to Vancouver, and they were in transit under 20 hours. That's not happening if it's going ground.

The best way to go about this is to send an email. Phone calls don't work, it becomes a "he said, she said" type thing if SHTF with a lost or damaged firearm. These days you need things in writing.


FYI, the top of the document Ted posted reads:

Products and Services Specifications-3649-Parcel Services Shipping within Canada
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Yes, that's the heading on the document if that is number that 3macs1is looking for. You can read it in the picture, but IIRC he posted that they already searched that.

Also, I like you have shipped firearms by XpressPost in the past.
Ted
 
bearkilr said:
Some of us don't have other options. Here it's CP or nothing.

The whole "air stage" shipping of firearms with CP is nonsense anyhow. I've sent firearms into the arctic with Expedited parcel and there are no roads, so it has to go by air. I've also sent parcels Expedited from Winnipeg to Vancouver, and they were in transit under 20 hours. That's not happening if it's going ground.

The best way to go about this is to send an email. Phone calls don't work, it becomes a "he said, she said" type thing if SHTF with a lost or damaged firearm. These days you need things in writing.


FYI, the top of the document Ted posted reads:

Products and Services Specifications-3649-Parcel Services Shipping within Canada
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I didnot have an e-mail address to send it to. I would if I had one plus i was given a number to call by my post master
That is one of the numbers we tried in their system and it didnot exist. Ok let me clarify that it was not active as of Jan 2018 so didnot exist nor could it come up
He also searched under products and services specifications in general, revisions made effective jan 1st 2018 and revisions made april 2017 and again could not find anything to this effect on firearm changes to insurance
He told me if I get more information to get a ticket opened also which I will so as you say whatever the out come is we have it in writing since some think I am just talking out of my ass or trying to discredit Ted which is not true
Cheers
 
Why not? said:
Yes, that's the heading on the document if that is number that 3macs1is looking for. You can read it in the picture, but IIRC he posted that they already searched that.

Also, I like you have shipped firearms by XpressPost in the past.
Ted
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If indeed 3649 we searched that for sure
Cheers
 
bearkilr said:
Some of us don't have other options. Here it's CP or nothing.

The whole "air stage" shipping of firearms with CP is nonsense anyhow. I've sent firearms into the arctic with Expedited parcel and there are no roads, so it has to go by air. I've also sent parcels Expedited from Winnipeg to Vancouver, and they were in transit under 20 hours. That's not happening if it's going ground.

The best way to go about this is to send an email. Phone calls don't work, it becomes a "he said, she said" type thing if SHTF with a lost or damaged firearm. These days you need things in writing.


FYI, the top of the document Ted posted reads:

Products and Services Specifications-3649-Parcel Services Shipping within Canada
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im in the same location as Ted ....
 
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