beo mags, yes beo mags, what's going on?
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What is your point? Since you are competing with other individuals doing the same and you claim they are law enforcement, if they were keen on enforcing the interpretation their own officials have made they would have already started with themselves. Or do you belive they would charge you while continuing to openly use theirs? Lol
Makes a difference if the police are at the range in an enforcement capacity or if they are there of their own volition using the range while open to the public.
I have personal friends who are law enforcement as well, that doesn't mean that nobody on the force is willing to enforce what their own labs findings are.
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At the end of the day, it's each person's choice whether or not they want to risk it. Everyone on here is aware there is a risk of being charged at the very least, the severity of that risk is probably different by region. A guy in Ontario or here in NB is probably far more likely to be charged than someone in Alberta.
I personally won't risk it as my career depends on my having a clean record, and I don't have the time, money, or legal insurance to fight a prohibited item charge.
If someone else wants to use them, I won't begrudge them that, and if they're ever charged I'll definitely donate to their legal defence should the worst happen, but I don't think we should crap on people who can't take the risk.
I personally won't risk it as my career depends on my having a clean record, and I don't have the time, money, or legal insurance to fight a prohibited item charge.
If someone else wants to use them, I won't begrudge them that, and if they're ever charged I'll definitely donate to their legal defence should the worst happen, but I don't think we should crap on people who can't take the risk.
What BS? I have cautioned people that the police are checking.
Take your own non restricted 50 beowulf rifle through a few road checks during hunting season in BC if you think I'm lying. Let us know how it works out for you.
I'm not sure what you mean by officers attending the range in an enforcement capacity. It is private property and unless they have a warrant, or invited or called to respond to an incident, they have no business on a private range facility. They are not CFO's doing inspections which they need to arrange in advance.
A few of the local ranges are on dead end roads, they have set up and checked every vehicle on said road for compliance before. They have also been in the parking lot doing the same at one of the local ranges. If what they were doing was illegal, I have no idea, but it is something to be aware of
I went through two road checks in the Okanagan this year, both RCMP and CO's there. All my firearms were checked as was every other vehicle they stopped. Pretty much the same spots every year, just varying weekends
One question the OP had that I don't recall being answered yet is can they be sold on the EE
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ic-Magainzes-No-solicitation-and-offer-to-buy
Sounds like our own site admin are going with the bulletin and not with what they feel is right or what we might get away with.
Like jjr said, everyone is aware of the bulletin and it's up to the individual to decide if it's worth the risk. I just don't understand why so many are willing to risk criminal charges just to put 4 more rounds in a magazine. If I was competing and everyone was using them then you'd be at a disadvantage and it would make sense to use them if you were serious about the sport but for a casual shooter at the range or in a gravel pit or out in the bush why would you risk it? It makes no sense, even if you're right and the charges are eventually dismissed you've still spent thousands on a lawyer that you won't get back and you'll still have wasted stressful days of your life in court for nothing more than wasting ammo a little faster.
I agree that the mag limits are stupid and don't make anything or anyone safer but the law is the law and when the guys enforcing the law end up being the same guys twisting it to work to their end goal with no checks and balances from the elected officials above them then it would make sense to go along. Either that or rally the troops to fund a court battle preemptively rather than to just ignore and hope it doesn't happen to you.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ic-Magainzes-No-solicitation-and-offer-to-buy
Sounds like our own site admin are going with the bulletin and not with what they feel is right or what we might get away with.
Like jjr said, everyone is aware of the bulletin and it's up to the individual to decide if it's worth the risk. I just don't understand why so many are willing to risk criminal charges just to put 4 more rounds in a magazine. If I was competing and everyone was using them then you'd be at a disadvantage and it would make sense to use them if you were serious about the sport but for a casual shooter at the range or in a gravel pit or out in the bush why would you risk it? It makes no sense, even if you're right and the charges are eventually dismissed you've still spent thousands on a lawyer that you won't get back and you'll still have wasted stressful days of your life in court for nothing more than wasting ammo a little faster.
I agree that the mag limits are stupid and don't make anything or anyone safer but the law is the law and when the guys enforcing the law end up being the same guys twisting it to work to their end goal with no checks and balances from the elected officials above them then it would make sense to go along. Either that or rally the troops to fund a court battle preemptively rather than to just ignore and hope it doesn't happen to you.
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And they specifically said they were checking for Beowulf mags? I have to call BS on that. Also, if you guys are being pulled over and searched on the way to the range I don't think you should be speaking to what's legal or not in the way of mags. Because unreasonable search and seizure is not a joke.
that bulletin is from 2014 and is in regards to the PCV fiasco. Not that it's clear what their plan is for the new problem that came up.
They always take extra interest in the NR ACR in 50 beowulf and have checked capacity with my own ammunition.
Look at the FRT legal comments on the 50 beowulf rifles in the table for the current interpretation
Unreasonable search and seizure? You suggest I lie when they ask if I have firearms in the vehicle?
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Why wouldn't you be allowed to pin them? You're making them compliant with the bulletin they released and when/if the bulletin gets thrown out you can remove the rivet and install one that limits it to 5.5 BEO. As long as you don't create a prohibited device it's legal.
I remove rivets all the time, if I buy a magazine that is a tight fit on 5 rounds of 223 I remove the rivet and replace it with one in the correct spot to allow 5.5 so I can insert it on a closed bolt. It's only illegal if you use it without the rivet, I wouldn't leave the house with it without a rivet though and don't go filling a windowed Pmag with 28 rounds and then take pics of your gun and post them on Fbook.
There is no alarm system on them so you can do whatever you want to them in the privacy of your own home, the SWAT team isn't going to be magically alerted and raid your home for doing corrective maintenance on your equipment.
Lol, he's relaying his personal experience, just because you haven't experienced the same doesn't make it useless drivel. He's trying to warn people that it is possible to be checked and that some officers actually know about the bulletin and check for compliance.
I have no idea what those officers would do if they found that his mags would hold 5 rounds of .50 but I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.
You go ahead and bury your head in the sand and pretend you are invincible but it only takes one d!ck cop to ruin your day/year/bank account/job.
If there is nothing the police can do about it take your .50 mags in to the local detachment with 15 rounds in them and tell them you use them all the time like this and that they can stuff their bulletin up their arse and let us know how it turns out.
