NEW M305 broke the bolt!

I just get frustrated when people start offering thier advice when I can read thier post and know they haven't a fuggen clue what they are posting about.

The OP has posted very limited info so far as to what happened, and everytime someone has done something similar in the past, the same sh!t gets dredged up about people guessing as to the causation. Maybe try to rise above it.

I have said it many times on this site..... I'm an azzhole.....

You’ll have no argument from me.

I don't suffer fools and thier misinformation...someone has to do it.... may as well be me :evil:

The point is, that your behaviour doesn’t out another poster as being someone with lack of knowledge, it just highlights your obvious lack of tact, maturity and better judgement.
 
Oh là là ! Oh là là ! 45ACPKING is now spewing out ignorant comments ? Take a look at his post numbers, mostly on the M14 Platform. Maybe you should read them all before dropping your gloves against him ... He deserves more respect.

And I thought that I had seen it all. Obviously, despite my old age, I am not old enough - I guess.

When 45ACPKING speaks, you listen, c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y.

Lol I'd hate to know wat u two do on sleep over nights :p
 
Being fairly new to the m14, the only reason i had the ballz to dig in and start playing around was because of the guidance from guys like 45acpking and barney. I've asked some silly questions (i see that now) and was always met with respect and encouragement.

Long live the m14!!! (the only way that can happen is if there are people with experience willing to share what they've learned. Many people in general arent so willing to do so.)
 
Being fairly new to the m14, the only reason i had the ballz to dig in and start playing around was because of the guidance from guys like 45acpking and barney. I've asked some silly questions (i see that now) and was always met with respect and encouragement.

Long live the m14!!! (the only way that can happen is if there are people with experience willing to share what they've learned. Many people in general arent so willing to do so.)

Right on. Owing an M14 isn't about hurt feelings. Nothing is for free and wisdom can't be bought. If you don't like the delivery method, do some research of your own.
Now, has anyone solved the bolt problem? As I see it, the choices are replace it with a Norc or a USGI bolt, depending on your budget. It's not like you are going to weld it back together, so let's get past the metallurgics.
 
If you don't like the delivery method, do some research of your own.

I don’t agree. There are plenty of stickies in the MBR section by the likes of Barney and Skullboy who filled pages after pages with useful info. They didn’t find it necessary to jeer or call people down.


Now, has anyone solved the bolt problem?

There are too many unknowns without further info. If I was a betting man, a decent bet could be on improper bolt lug / receiver recess engagement. I’m not confident that the bolt to receiver ‘fitting’ that the Chinese do to the M-305s is anything but indifferent.
However, that could and probably would be compounded by any of a few other ailments like:
- less than ideal heat treatment on the bolt,
- headspace issues from the factory or upon use on range day
- short receiver bridge issue allowing the firing pin engagement while the bolt is still slightly out of battery (which could be compounded by a contaminated firing pin channel in the bolt if the bolt wasn’t stripped and cleaned)

As I see it, the choices are replace it with a Norc or a USGI bolt, depending on your budget. It's not like you are going to weld it back together, so let's get past the metallurgics.

Maybe a straight bolt swap would fix it, if that is all that is wrong with it. How many bolts are going to be needed to to find the right one? what about the lug recesses on the receiver? Are they ok?, properly cut and angled?
Index of the barrel? Headspace issues?
I think best bet is to send it for warranty service, and then when the op receives a new one, send it to a smith that is familiar with the M1/M14 rifles to check those issues, or they can dive into the books.
There are several good publications on the M1 & M14 from Scott Duff, Walt Kuleck & Clint McKee that should be in the library of every M-305 owner.
 
I don’t agree. There are plenty of stickies in the MBR section by the likes of Barney and Skullboy who filled pages after pages with useful info. They didn’t find it necessary to jeer or call people down.
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I only call it how I see it and have consistantly done that since I joined here. I've taken as much time if not more to type in depth hands on advice on these rifles and very little of that was ever put in the stickies..... why it that? EGOS is why.... and the fact that barney and skullboy were the MODS here and in control of those stickies and had to protect thier rep and Egos. When skullboy realized I wasn't going anywhere and that my advice couldn't be argued.... he took his toys and stopped contributing..... whatever.... that's how it came across to me. So all these years I've been here, few breaks now and then, I've contributed so much information that when i see threads like this with the responses with bad advice.... Well.... some one has to be that guy. I could care less if people think I'm an azzhole, I have zero ego to protect and this place is most certainly not my peer group and never has been.... so other than a solid EE reputation..... I do not seek to build any reputation. So this allows me to speak my mind, how I see fit, about a topic that I am intimately familiar with..... the M14 type rifle.

So like it or not..... I will drop my information/advice where i see fit and if you don't like it..... Well I can't help or please everyone. I am jaded because of the way I have been treated and dealt with by some respected members in our little community here and I've come to no longer care , which allows me to be my good ol colorful self.

those here that have actually met me and spent time with me and thier rifles..... they get it. And I usually never turn down trying to help those who take the time to message me with questions and advice even though my shop is closed to them.

My frustration with threads like this is that a guy has an obvious issue that us experienced folks haven't seen too often in the hay day years of this rifle here and leads us to believe it's a faulty product. So folks here suggest spending money on a bolt and carry on and this is not right. Hold the industry accountable for this crap is the correct answer.
I've worked retail, sports fishing, up the pole to head manager of steveston marine's 3 stores as head manager and purchasing agent. I know all about import/export/dealer warrant/wholesaler warranty ect ect ect. I've had many dealings for several years with north sylvia, bell lifestyle, Worldwide distributing, redl sports, inland sports and I could go on.... I know how these folks operate and the discretion availlable at the retail level for warranty issues. Store policy can often get in the way of what could and should be quick and painless.

So when I respond to this thread that experience, along with my experience with the m14 rifles..... makes me frustrated that good people are spending good money on a rifle that vendors are still using the hype to sell. They are also raising the price based on the popularity and i suppose everything goes up...

So I think if anything, this thread has taught me that I need to find other avenues of entertainment and stop feeling the need to offer the solidest advice you will find on this platform.
If I was a fraud, another keyboard gunsmith..... if my stocks sucked azz and were failing..... we would all know about here on cgn..... but yet here I am after all these years.......
 
I'll help you guys out on some internet skills which have been commonly used by kids since the 1990s:

Go to an image hosting site like imgur.com

Upload your image

Use the link the site provides, then paste it into your post. There's a button that says "Insert Image"

voila, now you can practice typing without looking down.

Ill try that
 
0JNe2xb

1ueptru

Cfk0UUL

6pA58G4

QiN5va6

6pA58G4


Don't know if this works, all I see is URLS

How retard is the image posting tool on this forum

If it worked:

1. break

2. back of the front lugs

3. back of the back lugs

4. receiver

5. serial
 
Apple Tree,
Sorry for you troubles. Glad you are OK. A couple of questions: First did your left bolt lug have good contact with the receiver? If not then the right lug was under tremendous stress. Even the best made bolt would eventually fail. Any wear on the left lug? Pictures of this lug would be nice. Second did you load the round that caused the damage from the magazine? Rounds loaded manually into the chamber can cause out of battery explosions. Hope you get this problem sorted before fair weather arrives.

The left lug has slightly less wear than the right one.

Round was from the mag loaded by the previous shot.

Shooting in the winter is as awesome as in the summer!
 
So all these years I've been here, few breaks now and then, I've contributed so much information that when i see threads like this with the responses with bad advice.... Well.... some one has to be that guy. I could care less if people think I'm an azzhole, I have zero ego to protect and this place is most certainly not my peer group and never has been.... so other than a solid EE reputation..... I do not seek to build any reputation. So this allows me to speak my mind, how I see fit, about a topic that I am intimately familiar with..... the M14 type rifle.

So like it or not..... I will drop my information/advice where i see fit and if you don't like it..... Well I can't help or please everyone. I am jaded because of the way I have been treated and dealt with by some respected members in our little community here and I've come to no longer care , which allows me to be my good ol colorful self....

:sok2Wow, that sounds like a lot of baggage you’ve got going on there.
I guess you cope with it how you see fit.
You might want to think about taking up yoga or Pilates or visits to your local rub n’ tug or something...
 
0JNe2xb

1ueptru

Cfk0UUL

6pA58G4

QiN5va6

6pA58G4


Don't know if this works, all I see is URLS

How retard is the image posting tool on this forum

If it worked:

1. break

2. back of the front lugs

3. back of the back lugs

4. receiver

5. serial

Sunshine, it needs to be a .jpg or similar. It's you not the tool that's...

Go back and change top left from LINK to Direct link.

0JNe2xb.jpg
 
The only real visible difference I can see, is the bolt is a lot cleaner work then typical. Usually you can see tool marks, grain structure, etc.
Could mean a different metal, could just mean sharp tools.
 
The only real visible difference I can see, is the bolt is a lot cleaner work then typical. Usually you can see tool marks, grain structure, etc.
Could mean a different metal, could just mean sharp tools.

https://imgur.com/a/NBKK0
NBKK0


I think you nailed it man, there are NO tooling marks on that bolt, except behind both locking lugs where there might have been fitting adjustments made. Hopefully you guys can now see the image attached to this post. See the dots under the bolt? They look an awful lot like mold markings.

This bolt is made of SINTERED METAL, and that's #### for high impact application.
 
https://imgur.com/a/NBKK0
NBKK0


I think you nailed it man, there are NO tooling marks on that bolt, except behind both locking lugs where there might have been fitting adjustments made. Hopefully you guys can now see the image attached to this post. See the dots under the bolt? They look an awful lot like mold markings.

This bolt is made of SINTERED METAL, and that's #### for high impact application.

S H I T for high impact application.
 
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