Hunters: To protect our social licence, we have to stop killing animals we don’t eat

Bottom line: The law is created by legislation which is proposed by politicians reacting to what they perceive is a cause they can support.
The Majority of Canadians are non-hunters. The VAST majority of Canadians are against trophy Hunting.
Saying it is our 'right' to trophy hunt is incorrect. It is not a legal 'right'. It is a legal activity until legislation changes it. See the BC grizzly hunt as an example.

Lets not hurry the demise of our passion / sport / hobby / way of life by looking like idiots on social media.
 
"Social licence" is the acknowledgement that you feel you are doing something wrong. If you feel you need this, you should not be hunting.

Look to the forest industry in BC as but one example of what social licence means..........and where it ends up.

Candocad.
 

Chris Darimont is an associate professor in the department of geography at the University of Victoria and science director for the Raincoast Conservation Foundation.

I stopped reading at "Foundation".
 
He ate the cougar .... clearly, it doesn’t matter to the anti-hunting crowd whether he eats the animal or not. This is about dividing and conquering just like restricted and non-restricted firearms. It’s about moving the population into banning certain types of hunting with the hopes of eventually banning all types .... just like the incremental firearm laws.
 
City Boy said:
He ate the cougar .... clearly, it doesn’t matter to the anti-hunting crowd whether he eats the animal or not. This is about dividing and conquering just like restricted and non-restricted firearms. It’s about moving the population into banning certain types of hunting with the hopes of eventually banning all types .... just like the incremental firearm laws.
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That's exactly what I see going on here too. Ban grizzly hunting, then cougar and bear, then all predators... then it's just a short step to banning all hunting. I saw a "suggested post" on Facebook last week from a group called "No More Dead Does", who want the hunting of does banned across Canada.

And guess what happens once hunting is no longer a legal thing done with firearms!
 
What the F@#*^ is a Social license ? Bunch of idiots get together, create a ruckus and the media steps in to deem whatever they claim to be unacceptable. We need to evaluate this crap critically on a wide basis, otherwise "democracy" becomes just mob rule, by a minority.

Grizz
 
Oreus said:
That's exactly what I see going on here too. Ban grizzly hunting, then cougar and bear, then all predators... then it's just a short step to banning all hunting. I saw a "suggested post" on Facebook last week from a group called "No More Dead Does", who want the hunting of does banned across Canada.

And guess what happens once hunting is no longer a legal thing done with firearms!
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That's the endgame, for sure. No hunting, no guns, no people "messing with nature". Just stay in your condo in a city full of CCTV surveillance, sip lattes, and keep paying taxes like a good subject.

Btw, I've eaten lots of black bear and a bit of grizzly bear. Nothing wrong with it. No cougar, though. My wife is younger than me...haha.
 
Someone should explain the balance of nature. If you reduce the deer herd by 10% then you should reduce the predators that prey on them by 10%. It should be up to our game managers to control this balance and not our politicians. If we remove 20% of the habitat then in a balanced system we should remove 20% of the wildlife that utilized that 20%. You cannot stockpile wildlife. It has to be managed. Wildlife does not die of old age. If they do not fall victim to another animal, man included, the winter will kill them or they will die of starvation or disease.
 
the spank said:
I keep saying, stay the **** off Facebook, Twitter etc with hunting and fishing pictures!! It’s doing us more harm than good.
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Exactly, the internet & social media is access for all, including those who are against any & all hunting. Sure you post there to boast and the anti's see it and run with it. No such problems like this before social media & the internet. The anti's just plain do not understand, they do not want to understand and will fight to never understand.
 
Oreus said:
That's exactly what I see going on here too. Ban grizzly hunting, then cougar and bear, then all predators... then it's just a short step to banning all hunting. I saw a "suggested post" on Facebook last week from a group called "No More Dead Does", who want the hunting of does banned across Canada.

And guess what happens once hunting is no longer a legal thing done with firearms!
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antis are aiming no more hunt ... you are so right ...
 
People who don't "agree" with trophy hunting simply don't understand what is involved or have their own definition. What is possibly wrong for a hunter to pass on numerous legal animals in search of the absolute biggest one available. He might not even take an animal if he doesn't find that elusive one he is after. So what is wrong with that ? And apart from what the law says regarding removing the edible portions, I don't think we need to only kill what we eat. No one should have the right to tell me I have to eat a raccoon or coyote. As long as they are legal to shoot and I do it ethically its legal. Notwithstanding the edible potion rule for certain species. Who's going to eat a crow or dump rat ?

Treeing a cougar is how they are hunted. If they didn't tree you wouldn't shoot one in most cases. I know there are exceptions occasionally.
 
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MustangFrank said:
People who don't "agree" with trophy hunting simply don't understand what is involved or have their own definition. What is possibly wrong for a hunter to pass on numerous legal animals in search of the absolute biggest one available. He might not even take an animal if he doesn't find that elusive one he is after. So what is wrong with that ? And apart from what the law says regarding removing the edible portions, I don't think we need to only kill what we eat. No one should have the right to tell me I have to eat a raccoon or coyote. As long as they are legal to shoot and I do it ethically its legal. Notwithstanding the edible potion rule for certain species. Who's going to eat a cow or dump rat ?

Treeing a cougar is how they are hunted. If they didn't tree you wouldn't shoot one in most cases. I know there are exceptions occasionally.
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I'm in complete agreement; meat hunting is non-selective harvesting, whereas trophy hunting is seeking out a specific individual animal, usually one that's old, and wise to the ways of predators, making the hunt far more challenging and difficult. There are too many people though who believe that killing an animal for any reason is wrong; there's simply no argument to unhinged emotion. Consider those who cheer at the news that a lion, bear, or elephant hunter is killed by his prey, or who cowardly send anonymous death threats to successful hunters, who mistakenly kill a pet lion, they honestly believed to be wild.
 
The article also fails to mention that Ecklund ate the cougar and posted many pics of him butchering and preparing the meat for consumption and then eating it.

But hey, lets not let all the facts come out......
 
I have to give credit to the leftists. The creation of this thing called social license was brilliant. It's pretend, nothing tangible yet it keeps people/groups/businesses that partake in activites the leftists dislike in a constant state of recovery and explaining themselves.

Anyone else notice that the right of centre is the group always having to obtain social license?

I am not a real active user/picture poster on social media but I say keep up the good work to the hunters that are. I just may get on board with more photo posting. It's not as if the leftists are going to stop trying to ban hunting when photos are taken off the internet. We're going to have a fight sooner or later, may as well face it rather than run until it catches you.

bearkilr said:
I'm into trophy hunting and I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm also into eating the meat of the edible trophy animals I've killed. I'm still at a loss why people assume trophy hunters discard the meat, it's baffling.

Funny that trapping isn't mentioned in the article.
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Precisely my thoughts as well.

The reason some people think that trophy animals are just discarded is because they don't take the time to learn anything about the activity they protest. They're intellectually lazy. And it seems contrary to an activist rule book of some sort that they seem to follow.

Funny you mention the trapping thing. A bud and I were talking about this over a beer (and elk salami, only a medium bull however so no one should be too mad). I have seen fur piles of friends and acquaintances that would send your run of the mill anti cougar hunter into convulsions. 100 + lynx pelts for 1 guy makes for a pretty impressive looking haul. A smattering of otters, marten, fisher and a wolverine or two are a nice touch as well.
 
Big Jon said:
I have to give credit to the leftists. The creation of this thing called social license was brilliant. It's pretend, nothing tangible yet it keeps people/groups/businesses that partake in activities the leftists dislike in a constant state of recovery and explaining themselves.
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You mean like arbitrarily renaming the BC central coast "The Great Bear Rain Forest"? That was a brilliant marketing move on their part. The media picked that one up and ran with it in a heartbeat.
 
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