I half agree with you........they will stop right after single shot 22s.
Did you notice how AR is about to be prohibited?
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I half agree with you........they will stop right after single shot 22s.
Lol!!!!!
Naw, that'll be 12(105.5).. or whatever.
It's amazing to me how many shooters and enthusiasts cannot believe that the very slow and methodical elimination of firearms is underway and has been since the first OIC's.
As someone above quoted exactly right "with a stroke of the pen". That is how simple OIC's get the work done.
As Mark Twain said "it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
As someone above quoted exactly right "with a stroke of the pen". That is how simple OIC's get the work done.
As Mark Twain said "it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
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Could be. But this new change the firearms act didn't bring that in. The FA was set up that way from the beginning.
Almost 30 years ago.
Can we have that in latin.. should be CGN's motto..
You may want to take your own advice.
Section to 12(9) makes no reference to 12(11) and 12(14). 12(10) sets up 12(11) and 12(13) sets up 12(14).
12(9) is completely superfluous and open-ended. The only logical reason to include it is as a catch-all provision for firearms that may be subsequently prohibited by regulation.
Ian Runkle's assessment :
"Section 12 is amended by creating a new blanket grandfathering clause that can be done by regulation. Now, this suggests that the current government may intend to prohibit more firearms in future. However, it also suggests that they may grandfather in existing owners. This is a big warning sign for gun owners going forward, and one I haven't yet seen discussed. These firearms will also be excluded from the automatic ATT provisions. However, the new category of grandfathered firearms are not necessarily barred from being issued an ATT. This creates an uneven patchwork of laws that is exactly the opposite direction our firearms laws should be going."
Now a look at 12(9)
Grandfathered individuals — regulations
(9) An individual is eligible to hold a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms of a prescribed class if the individual
(a) possesses one or more firearms of that class on a day that is prescribed with respect to that class;
(b) holds a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class in the circumstances prescribed with respect to that class; and
(c) was continuously the holder of a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class beginning on the day that is prescribed — or that is determined under the regulations — with respect to that class.
"Section 12 is amended by creating a new blanket grandfathering clause that can be done by regulation. Now, this suggests that the current government may intend to prohibit more firearms in future. However, it also suggests that they may grandfather in existing owners. This is a big warning sign for gun owners going forward, and one I haven't yet seen discussed. These firearms will also be excluded from the automatic ATT provisions. However, the new category of grandfathered firearms are not necessarily barred from being issued an ATT. This creates an uneven patchwork of laws that is exactly the opposite direction our firearms laws should be going."
Now a look at 12(9)
Grandfathered individuals — regulations
(9) An individual is eligible to hold a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms of a prescribed class if the individual
(a) possesses one or more firearms of that class on a day that is prescribed with respect to that class;
(b) holds a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class in the circumstances prescribed with respect to that class; and
(c) was continuously the holder of a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class beginning on the day that is prescribed — or that is determined under the regulations — with respect to that class.
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The bill was only on it's first reading. If this goes into law, the AR-15 will be on the 12(9) category.
Present owners can grandfather but no more new AR-15's after that.
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Quoted for history. I'm sure time will see my advice through.
Prohibitions would not be under 12 (9). They would be under other sections not drafted or proposed.
Would need further political action to impose.
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Thank you.
Correct!
Did you notice that C17 does not reclassify CZ or Swiss. It only sets GF provisions. Actual reclassification will be done by regulation. So do we have the text? No! Do we know which guns are listed there? No! All we know that the list will most likely include the gun that you have a certificate for!
Not quite...
Sections 3.1, and 3.2 are the ones where the regulations specify that the CZ, and the SAN are non-restricted, or restricted based on barrel length. Part 2.1 of the schedule is the part where the individual firearms are listed...
It sets grand fathering provisions. It does not reclassify any guns. Look into section 12 (13) for example. It is silly to assume cz and swiss are on the cutting board, we only know that they are there for sure with some other restricted guns. Nothing is done for fun!
