Hey guys I'm newer to shooting. Was shooting with a stoger condor and went to a Citori gti. Been crossing my mind to try a semi but not 100%sure. I have a lineup on a Remington 1100 classic trap with chokes and comes with 7 chokes. Now it is $1000 which is about 200 cheaper than new and saving the taxes. I want to be able to break free if I don't like the semis, but if I do like them I don't want to buy twice. I find it hard to tell when asking someone at the range to try there's. (To much intimidation) should I bite the bullet?
Going to a semi...
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Too much intimidation? Lol.
Bring a few of your toys to the range, talk with one of the boys there with a semi, make small talk, offer to let them try yours, normal gun owners will return the favour.
If you really want to sweeten the pot, bring your own ammo for said shotgun.
Generally older Remingtons are better quality, but hard to go wrong with a model 1100, even if I am a Mossberg guy
Bring a few of your toys to the range, talk with one of the boys there with a semi, make small talk, offer to let them try yours, normal gun owners will return the favour.
If you really want to sweeten the pot, bring your own ammo for said shotgun.
Generally older Remingtons are better quality, but hard to go wrong with a model 1100, even if I am a Mossberg guy
I always take my own ammo. I did use a Winchester one time but it would not cycle my rounds very well I ended up switching back. The guy who's selling me the 1100 is letting me try it first so I'm sure I will actually get a feel for one after a couple rounds I'm just second guessing myself buying a Remington really
Funny, that's one of the things I don't care for either. That and picking up empties out of the snow.
My father takes my hulls for re loading so I’m sure this will be a issue. And I don’t like seeing empty’s all around the range! I actually think I have talked myself out of the idea of going to a semi. I’m not happy with the fit and finish of this classic trap 1100so until the next item I see
Trap, skeet and sporting clays all have there variables, one of them being gun malfunctions. You have enough to do when you step on station than wonder if your gun is going to go bang.
When I first starting shooting clays targets I used a Win M-12, In 1974 when Win. brought out the Super X M-1 semi auto I bought one for trap. Then the skeet version for skeet. The skeet version had gas port sizing issues, and at times wouldn't eject a casing.
I was at a shoot in the states and on my squad was an older gentleman who among other things was world champion in 28 ga. The SX-1 had jammed twice on that round, and I wasn't amused. At diner that night he was sitting beside me and passed along the wisdom that I mentioned above about having enough to do on station than worry if the gun is going to work. He advised me if I was going stay at the clay target game to go out a buy a good quality over and under, learn how to shoot it and don't look back. He related how he had come up through the ranks shooting pumps and semi's and settled on a Browning 4 barrel set.
I took his advice and traded the SX-1 skeet version in on a Win. 101 as it fit me better than the Browning Citori. I later bought a 101 in .410 as well. Over the years I poured thousands upon thousands of rounds through those 101's without a malfunction. I have also owned a Ruger Red Label which was one of my pheasant guns, excellent guns. When I retired from clay targets I was shooting a Classic Doubles 12 ga, skeet version. Basically a Win 101 with all the bells and whistles packed in a fancy luggage case, which I still have.
So I pass the advice I received as a young fella on to you. If your going to stay in the clay target games, buy the very best over and under you can afford that fits you well, you will never regret it. Plus you will never pick up another hull of the ground again.
When I first starting shooting clays targets I used a Win M-12, In 1974 when Win. brought out the Super X M-1 semi auto I bought one for trap. Then the skeet version for skeet. The skeet version had gas port sizing issues, and at times wouldn't eject a casing.
I was at a shoot in the states and on my squad was an older gentleman who among other things was world champion in 28 ga. The SX-1 had jammed twice on that round, and I wasn't amused. At diner that night he was sitting beside me and passed along the wisdom that I mentioned above about having enough to do on station than worry if the gun is going to work. He advised me if I was going stay at the clay target game to go out a buy a good quality over and under, learn how to shoot it and don't look back. He related how he had come up through the ranks shooting pumps and semi's and settled on a Browning 4 barrel set.
I took his advice and traded the SX-1 skeet version in on a Win. 101 as it fit me better than the Browning Citori. I later bought a 101 in .410 as well. Over the years I poured thousands upon thousands of rounds through those 101's without a malfunction. I have also owned a Ruger Red Label which was one of my pheasant guns, excellent guns. When I retired from clay targets I was shooting a Classic Doubles 12 ga, skeet version. Basically a Win 101 with all the bells and whistles packed in a fancy luggage case, which I still have.
So I pass the advice I received as a young fella on to you. If your going to stay in the clay target games, buy the very best over and under you can afford that fits you well, you will never regret it. Plus you will never pick up another hull of the ground again.
I hear you mrgoat. Initially I shared the same mindset as the OP because it seems that a lot of shooters are turning to semis for sporting clays. It is difficult to argue with progress because the semis of today are so much more reliable than the ones from 15 plus years ago. I had a Mossberg 930 JM pro and for an inexpensive semi, that gun ran like a champ until I sold it for $150 more than what I paid for it brand new. I have a bunch of semi now but they are all hunters and I don't shoot clays with them butt I have been thinking that I would like another semi just for that and if I had to buy another it would be the Winchester SX3. But I am not completely convinced, so I too am an advocate for the over under.
Like mrgoat, my Win 101 fits me better than my Browning Citori but I like my Citori better because of the lock up and how it swings. I have a Beretta Silver Pigeon arriving in about 5 days so my opinion on the Citori might still change. Speaking of Beretta, if the OP is set on a semi, do not over look the 301, 401 and Benelli offerings.
Hey.....here’s my take on shooting a semi
I love my Remington 1100 comp synthetic.....I shoot strictly trap....I load 90% of my ammo.It fits well,weighted the way I like,low recoil...has never gave me any issues that were not related to my hand loads....keep it clean and it will not let you down.
Let’s talk about the people you shoot with....this is the only time I hate using a semi.Singles are rarely an issue,I use a catcher,the odd one gets away,doesn’t hurt any one,but some of these old coots you shoot with have to remind you of the rules and how that hull distracted them!!
Doubles you can not use a catcher....this is where I bring my defibrillator....I don’t have to elaborate too much about what happens,I am sure after I post this I will be read the riot act.....mind you,I am just talking about a small percentage that do whine....if you want to be a prick,I guess you could complain of your fellow shooters release trigger not working and you have to spend 15 mins waiting for him to limp back to his Mercedes to get a replacement.....I am not bitter....I hate Mercedes..
I love my Remington 1100 comp synthetic.....I shoot strictly trap....I load 90% of my ammo.It fits well,weighted the way I like,low recoil...has never gave me any issues that were not related to my hand loads....keep it clean and it will not let you down.
Let’s talk about the people you shoot with....this is the only time I hate using a semi.Singles are rarely an issue,I use a catcher,the odd one gets away,doesn’t hurt any one,but some of these old coots you shoot with have to remind you of the rules and how that hull distracted them!!
Doubles you can not use a catcher....this is where I bring my defibrillator....I don’t have to elaborate too much about what happens,I am sure after I post this I will be read the riot act.....mind you,I am just talking about a small percentage that do whine....if you want to be a prick,I guess you could complain of your fellow shooters release trigger not working and you have to spend 15 mins waiting for him to limp back to his Mercedes to get a replacement.....I am not bitter....I hate Mercedes..
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Hahaha! Too funny but I have to add. At one time squads on a round of trap were mostly semi-shooters so there wasn’t any whining about hulls flying around. Now a semi on the trap field is a rare animal, especially amongst doubles shooters so hulls flying about really is noticeable. The only time I get annoyed by it is if the hulls are hitting me. Most do not use a shell catcher any longer as most shoot factory loads so they are not concerned about keeping their hulls so they let them fall to the ground. Years back most shooters reloaded. If a hull was on the ground it generally was because it had run out of reloading life.
Now as to the OP’s original thought about going to a semi. I started out using an 1100 Tournament Trap and it worked very well for me in terms of fit and ease of use however there was a constant worry if it would make it through the day....it broke often. Often enough I went break action my third season and never looked back.
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Ejected shells hit mic stands distract people my biggest complaint. Ejected hulls should never hit anyone if your gun is you are simply an #######.
1100s get shot on Cgn everyday in pretend land, just don’t see a lot of them on the line.
Not everyone has the same tolerance shooting is expensive and no one has to shoot with you.
1100s get shot on Cgn everyday in pretend land, just don’t see a lot of them on the line.
Not everyone has the same tolerance shooting is expensive and no one has to shoot with you.
I guess I live in pretend land. A land where the shooters are older and still use their old stuff like super x1 and 1100's a place where we don't have the jobs making the big money to buy fancy modern guns and young guys show up with camo mossbergs
But in the end we all have just as much fun
Some even shoot a 28ga for 16yard trap in an old full choke 870 pump with 71/2 reloads and do just fine with it . Well enough to get some so called high end boys here or think they are saying WTF
It's not the stick but who is holding it . My old modified 870 TC trap is as good as anything I have owned and shot trap with . With the extra ported etc etc mod choked trap barrel it is almost like cheating
Cheers
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You sound like the type I would love taking money from with your choice of an old 870 or 1100 in my hands. Yes I still have my sets of each of them bought on the 60's
I don't care what anyone shoots as long as they are safe and having fun
Like I said it is not the stick
No events were ever won with 870's or 1100's I guess but wait it is 2018 and the shooters are better NOT
100 is still 100 where I come from
Have no idea what your reference to the table has to do with anything
Cheers
Wait now this is goose gun JIMMY808 the guy that jumps on me all the time. You need some butt hurt cream dude
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Well that part I agree with. That is why I gave it up. Being a robot was not much fun and missing a couple birds out of 400 and not even making the top 5. It was time for me even with the very best guns one could buy made no difference
Now it is all fun and all 28ga trap, skeet what ever all with old 870 pumps and shoot better than with a k32 cause it doesn't matter and my mind isn't losing birds any more
I never recommended a 1100 to anyone but if that is what they can afford to shoot they will do fine with it
Most are shooting only for fun, not registered targets, not money or fame
Not everyone is like your Bud Patrick
Cheers
All that being said what is still being recommended as one of the top 5 best trap guns to buy for new shooters . Best bang for your buck but hey they are just the experts
Remington 1100 Classic Trap
There’s something about the traditional lines, high-gloss finish and even a retro buttpad on this nostalgic beauty. The Remington 1100 Classic Trap is simple, yet elegant with its American walnut furniture and gold embellishments throughout its small parts.
Right between the
Winchester Model 101 Pigeon Grade Trap
Winchester thrilled a lot of clay shooters when it revived the classic Model 101 last decade. However, unlike the Japanese-made 101’s—like the two I own from the 80’s—the latest are Belgian-made. Modern updates include porting, adjustable triggers, a nickel-plated receiver and .742 back-boring. Barrels are available in 30 or 32 inches, and an adjustable-comb version is also available. Its high Monte Carlo-style stock and slender receiver—carryovers from the preceding 101 design—create the ideal profile for rising trap targets.
and
Browning BT-99 Grade III
If you’re in the market for a specialized trap gun, don’t overlook the finely balanced, long-barreled single shots. The Browning BT-99 Grade III is a real beauty in terms of form as well as function. The model shown features an adjustable comb, but a non-adjustable version is also available for a couple hundred dollars less. Other features include an Invector Plus full choke tube, high-post ventilated rib to get on those rising clays, and porting—overall a very nice setup for trap.
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Can I ask what you shoot your skeet and trap with
Pretty clear you sure hate the vintage guns and the old folks that use them you will be old someday also if you are lucky
Cheers
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I could care less what a person shoots, as long as it doesn't interfere with the other shooters. But if your ejected hulls are hitting other shooters, or if you are having frequent gun or ammunition issues that are causing delays for the squad,, then it's up to the shooter to either remedy those issues, shoot another gun/ammunition, or don't shoot until you have the issue resolved. And if your method of closing your gun is constantly triggering the voice actuated throwers to throw a target, figure out a solution quickly.
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I can honestly say that is one aspect of the game today I ####ing hate, voice activated releases. I guess I am old school. I like having a trapper pulling targets, calling lost birds and ends after the first shooter fires his 5th shot. And I hate dragging voice releases back and forth at each station during a round of handicap if the shooters I am squadded with are at varying yardages. It’s a pain in the ass!
