BCL 102 through the paces

[tharkhold]

Shouldn't he find out if the rifle works normally with the stock trigger? The BCL 102 does use a firing pin with a spring as it's an AR10. Is this a faulty rifle, or use of a part that just doesn't work with this rifle?

I also think he should test it out in its OEM configuration, much easier to diagnose (and blame) if something isn't working in stock config.

I had an geissele SSA for my 102, but resisted the urge to install it... wanted to try the rifle out in OEM config first... but boy, was it ever hard to have the trigger RIGHT THERE and not install it!

 

[Stephano]

Occasionally my BCL102 wasn't returning to battery when it was picking up a round from the magazine. Returned the complete BCG to BCL, per their request. They sent me a new complete BCG. After installing new components, the rifle performs perfectly.

 

[cr5]

Shouldn't he find out if the rifle works normally with the stock trigger? The BCL 102 does use a firing pin with a spring as it's an AR10. Is this a faulty rifle, or use of a part that just doesn't work with this rifle?

Exactly why I said he should put it back to completely stock and send it in for warranty if it's still malfunctioning.
Once he has a properly functioning stock rifle he can start modifying/upgrading one thing at a time and if it quits working he will know which part is not compatible.

It should never be the consumers job to fix a brand new rifle. If you buy a new car and it doesn't start do you tow it back to the dealership and tell them to fix it on warranty or do you tow it to an independent mechanic and pay out of pocket to get it running? May as well add a supercharger while you're in there Tony, F the warranty.
Make BLC/NEA accountable for the crap they're selling, if it doesn't work make them fix it. Once it's working the way you paid for it to work then you start upgrading/customizing/personalizing.

 

[Epoxy7]

Exactly why I said he should put it back to completely stock and send it in for warranty if it's still malfunctioning.
Once he has a properly functioning stock rifle he can start modifying/upgrading one thing at a time and if it quits working he will know which part is not compatible.

It should never be the consumers job to fix a brand new rifle. If you buy a new car and it doesn't start do you tow it back to the dealership and tell them to fix it on warranty or do you tow it to an independent mechanic and pay out of pocket to get it running? May as well add a supercharger while you're in there Tony, F the warranty.
Make BLC/NEA accountable for the crap they're selling, if it doesn't work make them fix it. Once it's working the way you paid for it to work then you start upgrading/customizing/personalizing.

I'm in agreement with this. However When your first sentence is " the problem that comes when people buy a rifle that doesn't work then try to buy parts to make it work rather than sending a faulty rifle back for warranty replacement". It makes it seem as if the rifle was faulty and he tried to fix it by adding parts. Which wasn't the situation in this case.

Completely agree though if it doesn't work out of the box then it should go back and be fixed. Once you start changing the parts around then it's up to you to be the problem solver. Since all parts with AR308 rifles don't necessarily play well together.

 

[bananarama]

swapped the factory spring and buffer to a carbine 308 spring and carbine heavy buffer. Goes into battery with markable authority.

with Wilson combat trigger and nea bcg:
100 rounds of norinco no issues ejects at 4.5 oclock
100 rounds of federal no issues ejects at 2.5 oclock

 

[Epoxy7]

swapped the factory spring and buffer to a carbine 308 spring and carbine heavy buffer. Goes into battery with markable authority.

with Wilson combat trigger and nea bcg:
100 rounds of norinco no issues ejects at 4.5 oclock
100 rounds of federal no issues ejects at 2.5 oclock

There we go! Glad to hear it worked out.

 

[Markit]

I never shot mine wth the factory trigger. The only mod was to install a 3lb timney trigger and it has just worked. While I admit the timney is not the slickest it is 100% reliable on my 102.

 

[Claven2]

i ran it with the BCL bolt back and forth, results were worse with the bcl bolt than the aeroprecision bolt. I was getting light primer strikes ever second round with the bcl bolt and its spring firing pin.

Did you run the gun totally stock before complaining? It sounds like you did not.

The dealer us telling you to do that, not to tell us you used a stock bolt with aftermarket fcg.

 

[bananarama]

Did you run the gun totally stock before complaining? It sounds like you did not.

The dealer us telling you to do that, not to tell us you used a stock bolt with aftermarket fcg.

I really wanted to keep my trigger in. So before reverting it to stock trigger on Friday, I installed a heavy carbine buffer and heavy carbine spring. Problem solved immediately.

So that fixed my issue, no point in putting the stock trigger in now.

 

[redbirddog]

Well gents I giess I have won the NEA lemon lottery.
I have tried in pmags and xcr 10 rounders with the same result:
avg 1 in 5 failures:
Federal = failure to load, light primer strike
Honest steel match = failure to load, light primer strike
Aguila =failure to load, light primer strike

avg 1 in 10 failures:
Hornady black = failure to load, light primer strikes

avg 1 in 20 failures:
Hintenberger = failure to load, light primer strikes

It behaves better when it is cold so I assume I have a too tight chamber.

Looks like I'll be putting this rifle aside till I can put in a new barrel and adjustable gas block, because in it's present state it is completely not reliable.

I had similar issues with a GEN 1. Mine worked great in the summer. hated the cold weather. I'm still tweaking it, for me it came down to mags. It hates the XCR mags and minor issues with the Pmag. the " factory" mag that came with the gun works best.

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