I agree. My 17 hmr savage did better then my annie at 100. the 17 just got pushed around less in the wind.
What is a good group at 200m, 300m
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I agree. My 17 hmr savage did better then my annie at 100. the 17 just got pushed around less in the wind.
I dunno about that... my CZ 455 full stock in .17 HMR shoots 1-1.5" @ 100 yards reliably, my tuned custom 455 in .22 LR reliably shoots sub-MOA, with frequent sub 1/2 MOA groups at 100 yards. Maybe that just reflects upon the (lack of) quality in CZ factory barrels 
I mean, my .17 HMR is the best shooting CZ factory rifle I own (out of 3 rifles and 4 barrels), so what do I know with such a small sample.... 
I mean, my .17 HMR is the best shooting CZ factory rifle I own (out of 3 rifles and 4 barrels), so what do I know with such a small sample.... 
On a very calm, slightly overcast morning, I shot 3 consecutive 5-shot groups at 200 meters that all measured under 1 inch. [under ½ moa]
Rifle was my 40x with a 36X Leupold on top. Ammo was Eley Match EPS at 1059 fps. So it is possible for a 22 long rifle to perform at distance.
Of course, wind is your biggest challenge, and any amount of it can make moa potential into 4 moa groups. Dave.
Rifle was my 40x with a 36X Leupold on top. Ammo was Eley Match EPS at 1059 fps. So it is possible for a 22 long rifle to perform at distance.
Of course, wind is your biggest challenge, and any amount of it can make moa potential into 4 moa groups. Dave.
Got out this morning and the weather was nice at 24 with just a bit of wind. Had the wind flags but too many at the range to inconvenience them with me going back and forth to the 300 yard frames.
Using a black spot on the berm my spotter thought I was close but the berm is 25 yards behind the targets but close enough.
The first target was using Eley TEAM with a 1073 velocity and seven shots were fired.
Using a black spot on the berm my spotter thought I was close but the berm is 25 yards behind the targets but close enough.
The first target was using Eley TEAM with a 1073 velocity and seven shots were fired.
Got out this morning and the weather was nice at 24 with just a bit of wind. Had the wind flags but too many at the range to inconvenience them with me going back and forth to the 300 yard frames.
Using a black spot on the berm my spotter thought I was close but the berm is 25 yards behind the targets but close enough.
The first target was using Eley TEAM with a 1073 velocity and seven shots were fired.
The second group was five shots using Eley EDGE with a velocity of 1066.
Without knowing where the shots were going and whether they were hitting the target or the bigger piece of cardboard the targets were attached to it was another walk to the 300. Much to my surprise all shots were accounted for. The other shooter was really impressed with the "X".
As near as I can tell the sights were set at 100m and the elevation was increased about 40 moa.
The rifle is a BSA Martini Int'l Mk II and the sights are the Parker Hale 25B.
Using a black spot on the berm my spotter thought I was close but the berm is 25 yards behind the targets but close enough.
The first target was using Eley TEAM with a 1073 velocity and seven shots were fired.
The second group was five shots using Eley EDGE with a velocity of 1066.
Without knowing where the shots were going and whether they were hitting the target or the bigger piece of cardboard the targets were attached to it was another walk to the 300. Much to my surprise all shots were accounted for. The other shooter was really impressed with the "X".
As near as I can tell the sights were set at 100m and the elevation was increased about 40 moa.
The rifle is a BSA Martini Int'l Mk II and the sights are the Parker Hale 25B.
Wow thanks for posting this!
That is some impressive shooting, and gets to the point of my post. Lots of people saying they can hit stuff, I was interested in what GROUP was possible at 300. Lots of reliable info in the centerfire world, not so much in the rimfire.
That is some impressive shooting, and gets to the point of my post. Lots of people saying they can hit stuff, I was interested in what GROUP was possible at 300. Lots of reliable info in the centerfire world, not so much in the rimfire.
Got out this morning and the weather was nice at 24 with just a bit of wind. Had the wind flags but too many at the range to inconvenience them with me going back and forth to the 300 yard frames.
Using a black spot on the berm my spotter thought I was close but the berm is 25 yards behind the targets but close enough.
The first target was using Eley TEAM with a 1073 velocity and seven shots were fired.
The second group was five shots using Eley EDGE with a velocity of 1066.
Without knowing where the shots were going and whether they were hitting the target or the bigger piece of cardboard the targets were attached to it was another walk to the 300. Much to my surprise all shots were accounted for. The other shooter was really impressed with the "X".
As near as I can tell the sights were set at 100m and the elevation was increased about 40 moa.
The rifle is a BSA Martini Int'l Mk II and the sights are the Parker Hale 25B.
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WOW 300 yards with a .22. I would never thought that to be possible. I am lucky to get that at 100 yards.
I bought a case of CCI Minimag round nose some time back and on their site they suggested that I sight the rifle in for 100yds. Since they run 1265fps they are a little better equipped for longer ranges but since I mostly hunt wabbits and grouse with it 50yds is more than adequate. I use a CZ452 and it puts meat in the freezer every time. Longer barrels help a lot.
Only if you are using iron sights or aperture sights. Shorter barrels optimize the velocity of the 22 LR [16"-19"] and
accuracy with optics is not dependent on a long barrel. Dave.
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It is incredible fun. When you start shootong 300. And are hitting 10 moa groups then start honing in on every little inconsistency in trigger squeeze, aiming, hold etc, and get it down to 2 moa or under 1 moa, you should see what happens when you go back to 50.
High velocity .22LR ammo is less desirable for accuracy. Standard velocity ammo never exceeds the sound barrier and is more reliable for accuracy. High velocity ammo exceeds the speed of sound and then falls below it. Anytime a bullet (or an airgun pellet) enters or leaves the transonic zone it experiences turbulence in flight. That contributes to inaccuracy. Furthermore, CCI Minimag ammo is more likely to have a wider ES than SV match ammo and that makes a big difference in POI as distance increases.
I had to try this again but today as at a range of 192 yards with the H & R 5200 and off a Harris Bipod.
Not measured at the range as I still needed the target so they were patched. After coming home the back of the target was measured at 1.812 c-c. This was using Eley TEAM with a velocity of 1074. Weather was calm and no wind flags.
This one was measured at home at 2.3" +/- c-c.
Not measured at the range as I still needed the target so they were patched. After coming home the back of the target was measured at 1.812 c-c. This was using Eley TEAM with a velocity of 1074. Weather was calm and no wind flags.
This one was measured at home at 2.3" +/- c-c.
It is addictive. We had our 100 Meter Rimfire Match today and just had to try it again.
Wind flags up but require better positioning.
This one was just a shade over 7" at 300 yards for 10 rounds using Eley TEAM.
The next group was a different lot of TEAM and they grouped lower and right with only five of ten on the paper.
Tomorrow is another day.
Wind flags up but require better positioning.
This one was just a shade over 7" at 300 yards for 10 rounds using Eley TEAM.
The next group was a different lot of TEAM and they grouped lower and right with only five of ten on the paper.
Tomorrow is another day.
Took out my 1929 pre-A stainless model 52 with peeps and zeroed it at 250 yards. The orange dots are 1” center to center. I never brought a measuring device with me. The ammo is Eley subsonic hollow point. The groups are approximately 2.75” and 3.5”. Pictures of the groups and rifle are in the link below.
https://imgur.com/gallery/b6thL17
https://imgur.com/gallery/b6thL17
I haven’t tried repeating it, but I’m sure it is repeatable. The gun shoots 1/2 MOA at 100 yards quite regularly.
