cartridge/bullet ethics of hunting Moose.

There was nothing wrong with the hit he got. That bull was doomed and would have piled right where he paused. Shooting the second time is cheap insurance, and the kind of thing that keeps you out of trouble.
 
Mr. Friendly said:
I personally want a short action rifle, so I'd likely go with something like the .260 Remington, especially since I intend on staying with the .308 family.

also, please enlighten me with what 'PRS game' means?
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Sounds like the 7-08 fits into what your looking for. I'm sure it will work fine on moose with proper bullet selection, good shot placement and out to moderate distances.
 
todbartell said:
Sensible minimum would be a medium 6.5mm (Swede, Creed, 260) on up to the 375's
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Pending proper bullets on the 6.5mm end.

Seems to me the 6.5 Swede made a good reputation for penetration with 160RN bullets on moose. I would think a heavy NP would even be better. I'd live to shoot a moose with a 175gr RN in my 275Rigby for the full route Fudd experience.
 
Slamfire said:
No problem using a scope with a ballistic reticle like the Nikon Omega BDC 250 3-9x40mm.

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Thanks for the tip and no It wouldn't be a problem , except I choose to not use a scope on this particular rifle -I like to hunt up close and personal - the cartridge works well for that ....The 45-70 is a niche chambering ,and while i'm not here to extol its virtues as a hunting round ...this particular rifle can full a 10 inch ring at 200 yards all day ,it's just not something I personally do on a live target ,my choice .
 
judge329 said:
It all boils down to one thing . HOW WELL DO YOU SHOOT. CAN YOU HIT A LOONIE AT 100 YARDS . IF NOT STAY HOME.
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Hit a loonie at 100 yards? Do I get to use a bench or does it have to be from a field position? WHAT IF I DON'T HAVE A BENCH IN THE FIELD?
 
Slamfire said:
An instant and ethical humane kill is always my objective. I use rounds capable of smashing through shoulder bone to sever spinal chord. So in this scenario range is about 100m. Lead it a bit. And let fly. Never knew what hit it, 1 shot DRT.

But instead he fires the 1st shot at 2:57, 2nd shot at 3:04,....


...said to be a .300 WSM (3:54).
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Absolutely nothing at all wrong with what I saw there - solid lung hit and ran what appeared to be less than 50m - second shot is just good insurance. The high shoulder shot is an ethical dilemma for me personally due to meat wastage. I know that there are a lot of guys that love it and I have used it (it works) - but throwing away bloodshot front shoulders and pieces of backstrap is enough to make any meat hunter cry. I have taken to broadside lung shots or neck shots and the freezer is just a little bit fuller. If I am going to harvest that animal - I think it is ethical to get as much meat from it as possible in the process.
 
I'm looking into getting a Marlin GSBL in .45-70 or a Browning in .358 Win. the .358 does have my curiousity piqued. I like the way Chuck Hawks explains his love for the cartridge. :)

I have a Pro Hunter in 7mm-08 already, so I am set.

I post with questions for my own curiousity and to learn. further, the 6.5mm have excellent sectional densities with lighter faster bullets, so there really may not be the need for a thumper like the Win Mag's or large bore calibre's.
 
1899 said:
Hit a loonie at 100 yards? Do I get to use a bench or does it have to be from a field position? WHAT IF I DON'T HAVE A BENCH IN THE FIELD?
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I would love to see someone hit a loonie, under field conditions(no rest) as well?

The kill zone on a moose is close to 16 inches....or more depending on size.

A shot through both lungs, heart, liver, neck or headwith just about ANY center-fire with 1200 ft.lbs of energy( with appropriate bullet) will kill a Moose.
 
350 Mag said:
I would love to see someone hit a loonie, under field conditions(no rest) as well?

The kill zone on a moose is close to 16 inches....or more depending on size.

A shot through both lungs, heart, liver, neck or headwith just about ANY center-fire with 1200 ft.lbs of energy( with appropriate bullet) will kill a Moose.
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Myself, I'm lucky the kill zone is that big. When a critter I have waited years for walks out I am usually shaking like a leaf.
 
SuperCub said:
Pending proper bullets on the 6.5mm end.

Seems to me the 6.5 Swede made a good reputation for penetration with 160RN bullets on moose. I would think a heavy NP would even be better. I'd live to shoot a moose with a 175gr RN in my 275Rigby for the full route Fudd experience.
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Full fudd experience would be with a .308, .270, .303, .30-30 or .30-06 and a gun you hadn't fired in 4 years with old factory ammo. I think you are mixing it and the early 1900's Englishman going for a hunt in the Canadian frontier.
 
Slamfire said:
What wastage? Not much bloodshot meat, and I make a wicked pate with it. Heart/lung shots to be avoided. Need those intact for my haggis recipe.
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Of coarse that is largely dependant on velocity - I get very little bloodshot meat with heavier bullets at lower velocity (like a .45-70). I have seen large amounts of loss on animals shot with higher velocity calibers when large muscle groups are hit (especially at closer ranges and/or with more frangible bullets). I lost one front shoulder and the front portion of the back straps/tenderloin on a whitetail I shot through the shoulder/spine a few years ago with a 7mm Remington Mag at about 100 yds. I have seen similar results with multiple calibers. Your mileage/experience may vary - I avoid the shoulders now and go for lungs or the spine forward of the shoulders.

Again, do what you have to to put the animal down cleanly (that's the important part) - the thought of wasting meat because of shot
placement bugs me personally.
 
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