Regarding YETI...

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We discussed this internally and its easier to simply move on as we already stock Pelican.

JR

Which to be honest I am looking at buying a new cooler at some point and in my current occupation Pelican has a great name (4 LAV tires thrown on top of a server rack for a long flight proved it for me) and their price point is more reasonable.
 
Actually, once this story broke, we reached out to YETI for their take on this matter and sat back. When we got nothing of substance back, we pulled Yeti from the shelves.

Yeti did eventually respond with a more detailed response and timeline. It actually demonstrates fairly soundly that the NRA have used this situation to inflate themselves and Yeti was actually not really at fault in this matter.

However, my issue with Yeti is that due to really poor crisis management, they have polarized the situation and inadvertently alienated the shooting community. It's not my job to protect their image or to do damage control on their behalf, especially when we just literally got our first shipment a day before this erupted. I'm a small business.

We discussed this internally and its easier to simply move on as we already stock Pelican.

JR

Well Put JR
 
The only thing that has any real chance of working is boycotting brands that don't support gun ownership. By choosing to support and buying goods from anti hunting, anti gun organizations you are in fact threatening the sport you are involved in. With so much competition why not choose to support a pro gun establishment.

I tottally agree. have not shopped there since they dropped cameback. I hike and backpack, when I am not sport shooting. So mec has lost profits where I am concerned. I think it is about taking a stand to protect our sport. If not us who will?
 
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32% of US homes have at least 1 firearm.
1.5% of Americans are active NRA supporters.
Does this mean 30.5% of US gun owner households are liberal? I think it means there are a lot of moderates and I guarantee the households support the 2nd amendment and use elected officials to protect it.
NRA's hard stance after massacres is turning off most except the hard right. It's the same up here except up here guns aren't a right. Wish it was but it's not. It's all up to who we elect. Can't stand Mr. Dress-up in Ottawa and he will mess up everything until his as is tossed.
 
What is so good about these coolers that someone would spend $600 bucks on one when a cooler cost $50 at Crappy tire?

They are better Coolers. Cheap ones are not bear resistant, they use thinner plastic on the inside walls and less dense foam insulation. They will keep ice frozen (and thus food cold) longer than a similarly sized Coleman ect.

That said, unless you specifically need a bear resistant cooler I sure as fkk wouldn't spend the money on one. While they are good coolers, they're not 6 to 10 times the cooler.
 
They are better Coolers. Cheap ones are not bear resistant, they use thinner plastic on the inside walls and less dense foam insulation. They will keep ice frozen (and thus food cold) longer than a similarly sized Coleman ect.

That said, unless you specifically need a bear resistant cooler I sure as fkk wouldn't spend the money on one. While they are good coolers, they're not 6 to 10 times the cooler.

They may be bear resistant, but it would seem they are not Tannerite resistant from the vids I have seen...
 
As a CANADIAN I give practically ZERO faqs what decisions any American civilian or American company does or doesn't do with the NRA.
Tell me YETI has given a direct middle finger to the CCFR and I might, might, give a crap. They can do whatever they want.
 
Bill of Rights 1689 is good starting point. It’s nothing as neat as the American system as we don’t have a single document to look to in Common Law.
Blackstone’s Commentaries link it to the individual’s right to self-defence.

The SCC rulings trumpeted by anti-gun advocates overlook that they were ruling against ppl claiming the government has no authority to regulate this right to arms. That doesn’t diminish it to a privilege that we should ask for, cap in hand.
 
All this "if they don't support the NRA they're garbage'...is just...garbage.
My brother isn't really a shooting fan (he's more into classic cars). Great guy...salt of the earth.
But I guess the thinking here would be I should disown him and never speak to him again.
 
Good point

All this "if they don't support the NRA they're garbage'...is just...garbage.
My brother isn't really a shooting fan (he's more into classic cars). Great guy...salt of the earth.
But I guess the thinking here would be I should disown him and never speak to him again.

There isn't enough room for absolutes. Just because someone has an informed opinion that differs from yours doesn't make them wrong, just as your position isn't wrong either.
 
The way I see it is if you take a step back and look at it its very easy to come to a conclusion.

I'm looking to buy product X.

There are 2 brands that provide equivalences to product X.

One brand supports organizations which their purpose is to preserve rights that I am affected by while the other brand does not.

As a consumer I will support the brand that in turn supports my interests. Why should I have to compromise my values and have my interests undermined just to maintain their bottom line.
 
4. Anger at a business for making a decision regarding their own operations but no anger or disappointment towards the apparently inaccurate and misleading statement from the NRA? Seems a bit like biased/unfair judgement to me.

Yes I am sure you came to that conclusion after having all the facts at your disposal. (cough hypocrite cough)
 
I don’t really care.. if I want something from yeti I will buy it. I doubt my barber supports the NRA and I still go to him as well as a host of other businesses.

But then again gun people are always reasonable so maybe I should listen and boycott everyone that doesn’t agree and support unconditionally everything I do...

Grow up people, it’s a big tough world out there. Businesses doing what’s right for them is not a fault in my books. I’m sure, they calculated for the knee jerk gun owner reactions when they made the decision, boycotting most businesses will hurt you more than it hurts them.

Your barber probably doesn't have a publicly shared opinion on the NRA, or Canadian gun organizations. If my barber (or dentist or doctor or mechanic) was anti gun in their private life I wouldn't care about it. People are allowed to have opinions. However, if they beaked off about anti gun stuff every time I went for an appointment, or made business decisions that attempted to appeal to anti gun people, I would find another barber.

There are lots of people that will cut your hair, and there are lots of companies selling high end coolers.
 
No matter what... yeti is/was/always has been/always will be... extremely overpriced for what it is. There are many other products on the market for a much more affordable price. So all of the yeti talk is meaningless to me... only way you'd see me with a yeti product is because I won it or was gifted it. Whether they support our sport or not... they are still too expensive.
 
No matter what... yeti is/was/always has been/always will be... extremely overpriced for what it is. There are many other products on the market for a much more affordable price. So all of the yeti talk is meaningless to me... only way you'd see me with a yeti product is because I won it or was gifted it. Whether they support our sport or not... they are still too expensive.
examples of lower priced but equivalent products, please.
 
I think this is the core issue: I have asked Yeti for some clarification and while it is still short notice, I do not have faith in an answer. The local rep simply keeps saying; "it's all a misunderstanding"... Given the NRA's further document productions, it does not look so cut and dry. The NRA may actually have a point here and Yeti may just be doing damage control.

For me as a small business owner, this truly sucks ass as we just literally got in our first shipment of Yeti stuff to feed the custom shop located in our space. Custom Yeti mugs are super popular and engrave easily....

I spoke to my team about this and we are watching carefully as we have no dog in this fight and only want to have honest products to retail. Yeti may have forced us to look at alternatives.

JR

Thums up for the way you are handling Yeti's epic clusterfrack.
 
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