Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

personaguru said:
wood a dedicated 22 upper be restricted if i used a shorter then 18.6 on it id like it to be a do most rifle system
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IANAL so don't take this as legal advice, but here is my understanding of the law:

Rimfire rifles only have an overall length restriction. Pretend you use an A2 stock for it - then all you need to do is make sure the barrel is long enough to meet the OAL requirement of 660mm.
If you go with a collapsable stock, you need to make sure the barrel is long enough to meet 660 mm in OAL at its most collapsed state (which means a longer barrel than the A2 stock example, obviously). It's also nice that there are no mag restrictions so if you get the CMMG or that type of rimfire adapter for it, you can run those 24 or 26 rounder Black Dog Machine mags with it :)
 
The_Silencer said:
Why is the colour mismatched?
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Good question on the colour difference. All I know is that receiver set is one of the pre-production prototypes that was recently sent to a dealer for testing. The lower looks to be machined and anodized quite well but the upper is definitely different.

Sure hope that the final product doesn't ship that way.
 
The_Silencer said:
Why the colour mismatch?
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Believe it or not, anodizing is not easy to match batch to batch. Its entirely plausible that the upper and lower parts were anodized separately. They may also be different types of aluminum, i.e. 6061 and 7075 (for example, I don't know what material they use). Different types of aluminum will take anodizing differently, and as such could also contribute to the slight color difference.

Take a look at any number of anodized black upper and lower receivers manufactured by some of the big names i.e. Colt etc, where anodizing can even appear to be more grey than black. It is generally accepted that if you want true color match, it is best to apply an exterior finish i.e. paint, cerakokte etc. over the anodized substrate.

Cheers
 
Armedsask said:
Oh please, it's a slight different shade. Could just be lighting. Give your balls a tug.
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Is it just the lighting in these pics too???? Hmm... I don't think so.

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Anyways this example is just a pre production unit so I don't expect QC to be the highest.

If QC is as high as it should be on the final production versions of a 1K receiver set there is no excuse for this. Both parts are made from the same type of aluminum. Anodize both parts of a set in the same batch and this should never happen.

Like it or not I still hope final production receivers don't come like this. Proper QC can minimize or virtually eliminate variations like you see in these pics.
 
I brought this up to a guy who texts Wyatt directly back last November. I did this after seeing the CSC sample.

He responded saying they have tested a few different anodizers and methods. The production ones won't be like that.

Of course, we'll see what we get.
 
jiffx2781 said:
Is it just the lighting in these pics too???? Hmm... I don't think so.

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Anyways this example is just a pre production unit so I don't expect QC to be the highest.

If QC is as high as it should be on the final production versions of a 1K receiver set there is no excuse for this. Both parts are made from the same type of aluminum. Anodize both parts of a set in the same batch and this should never happen.

Like it or not I still hope final production receivers don't come like this. Proper QC can minimize or virtually eliminate variations like you see in these pics.
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There are colour variations on mil contracted M16's and M4's. It has no effect on the finish or the operation.
 
jiffx2781 said:
Is it just the lighting in these pics too???? Hmm... I don't think so.
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You’d be surprised...my first NEA-15 had an upper that appeared almost purple in photographs but was nothing but black in person. Plus the upper in those pics looks bone dry while the lower has a bit of a shine - could be something as simple as rubbing the upper with a bit of oil and presto, they match.
 
Color variance is unavoidable depending on the batch of Aluminum. Even in the same heat lot.

Not to mention it is out of their control when it comes to Anodize. Unless they are doing it in house, which I doubt.

Depending on the dye and how long they have been using it, parts can come out purplish.

Anodizers will usually blame the material. LOL
 
Dyeing type III anodizing with matching shades from batch to batch is extremely difficult do achieve.

I'd actually take a purple over a black one, I've associated purplish anodizing with hard use combat weapons over the years.
 
bananarama said:
When will these damn receivers be ready?
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March to April to May to June.

July comes next, August will follow, and we'll see about September.

While I do admire the strive for perfection and the large undertaking Maccabee has chosen to tackle... they're unrealistic timelines, and constant delays are beginning to get old.

I follow them on Instagram, and others are in the same boat about asking if they're on schedule, and the reply is remnant of a Political canned message that does everything but answer the original question.

At some point, patience will wear thin and while there are a ton of others willing to pick up other pre-orders now, if bill C-71 commences before their release, there could very well be a significant drop off of orders.
 
Yep I agree. I’m dropping my pre order of this becomes a non registered registered full semi auto. I refuse to have it if the law knows where it’s sitting. I want one before the crap-71 is out
 
Yah I already prepaid. I might try to jump ship too if it’s not ready before C-71. I’m not interested in a $1000 upper and lower that’s gonna be subjected to gov oversight. But yah I’m guessing this will be July before being ready. They have a very long ways to go judging by the Instagram post.
 
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