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I’ve seen lots of pictures of these guns being fired with crews/infantry standing in the general vicinity contrary to reading that they were fired remotely from 300 yards by crews wearing protective eye/ear protection from the shockwave. The guy in the above photo doesn’t look very phased. The photo also doesn’t look completely real. Another amazing almost useless German terror weapon.

21cm / 8.3inch K 12 (E).
Shell separate-loading, cased charge
Caliber 211 millimetres (8.3 in)
Breech horizontal sliding-block
Recoil hydro-pneumatic
Carriage 2 x 10-axle bogies (front)
2 x 8-axle bogies (rear)
Elevation 25° – 55°
Traverse 0° 25' on mounting
360° on Vögele turntable
Muzzle velocity 1,500–1,650 m/s (4,900–5,400 ft/s)
Effective firing range 45,000 m (49,120 yds)
Maximum firing range 115,000 m (125,765 yds)


More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_cm_K_12_(E)
 
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I’ve seen lots of pictures of these guns being fired with crews/infantry standing in the general vicinity contrary to reading that they were fired remotely from 300 yards by crews wearing protective eye/ear protection from the shockwave. The guy in the above photo doesn’t look very phased. The photo also doesn’t look completely real. Another amazing almost useless German terror weapon.

The muzzle blast looks to be "imaginatively" colorized, and the soldier in the foreground is definitely photo-shopped in. All the edges of the soldier are far too crisp against the background, and whoever photo-shopped it did a pretty half-arsed job of trying to cover the fact with the smudge tool, but only succeeded in fading the elements around the soldier, making it look even more obvious.
 
21cm / 8.3inch K 12 (E).
Shell separate-loading, cased charge
Caliber 211 millimetres (8.3 in)
Breech horizontal sliding-block
Recoil hydro-pneumatic
Carriage 2 x 10-axle bogies (front)
2 x 8-axle bogies (rear)
Elevation 25° – 55°
Traverse 0° 25' on mounting
360° on Vögele turntable
Muzzle velocity 1,500–1,650 m/s (4,900–5,400 ft/s)
Effective firing range 45,000 m (49,120 yds)
Maximum firing range 115,000 m (125,765 yds)


More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_cm_K_12_(E)

Max range 70 miles. Like the Air Force, they never missed the ground...
 
Very cool stuff, Brookwood. Thanks for that. Who remembers this stuff these days?

These lads aren't CRT personnel, but they are running a railroad for Commonwealth troops during WW1.

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Looks like the worst (or possibly best) ride at Disneyworld. Meanwhile, on the Eastern front...

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In 1940 - after the British withdrawal at Dunkirk - the 1st Canadian Infantry Brigade landed at at Brest, France. The Brigade was formed with RCR, 48th and Hasty P’s . The RCR was primarily ‘regular’ pre-war personnel and the other two units were primarily pre-war militia. They took rail transport and got a good distance into France (approx LeMans) .... unfortunately while they were moving into a flanking position to support French Forces (who were fighting quite valiantly against the Germans) the Germans occupied Paris, the French capitulated and the Vichy Government was formed. This placed the Canadians in a very dangerous situation and they were ordered to withdraw.

Also unfortunately, the French train crew (fearful of reprisal) chose then to abandon the RCR, and their only transport capable of moving them quickly back to the coast for evacuation. As it transpired, a couple of the RCR members had some pre-war experience in operating steam engines — and managed to get the train with the unit back for a hasty embarkation.
 
I note with great interest "Number 9" locomotive (above) and wonder if it was purpose-built as a loco, or a field expedient. It is a FORD, of all things, with the post-1916-type radiator.

Motor likely would be the standard 20-horse Model T with the 2-speed planetary transmission, but that is a guess, strictly. At this remove in time, who really knows?

Anyone have any documentation on these machines? There is nothing about them in my 1919 Dyke's.
 
Smellie - it's a field mod, but made to a 'military standard'. Railways around the globe had been adapting Model Ts to rail use since the car hit the market. Canadian Pacific has a long history going back to the Model T of adapting automobiles to railway service, so I'm sure a few of the boys in the Railway Troops had the 'know how' to undertake a conversion.

Here's the same vehicle from a different angle -

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And a few others -

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Here's a typical 'civilian' mod -

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Brookwood
 
That's the coolest thing I've seen yet today. It'd be fun to bodge one together today. Thanks for that, Brookwood.

Another civilian entity adapted to military service, Ms. Veronica Lake, supporting the USAAF:

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Smellie - it's a field mod, but made to a 'military standard'. Railways around the globe had been adapting Model Ts to rail use since the car hit the market. Canadian Pacific has a long history going back to the Model T of adapting automobiles to railway service, so I'm sure a few of the boys in the Railway Troops had the 'know how' to undertake a conversion.

Here's the same vehicle from a different angle -

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And a few others -

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Here's a typical 'civilian' mod -

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Brookwood

They still adapt trucks to drive on rails, very sensible for maintenance and not difficult.

Grizz
 
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/09/17/cross-channel-duel/

Terror campaign.

One of the lesser known campaigns of WW II was the cross channel bombardments in the Pas-de-Calais and Dover area between German and British large gun emplacements. Here is some information on this little known action.

In the four years where the cross channel gun emplacements were on the front line towns in the Kent region suffered over 100 civilian dead and four times that many injured as a result of 3,514 German shells bursts. Dover alone received 2,284 of these shells from the German guns… From the British guns, 4,240 rounds were fired. In both cases many of the rounds fired were at shipping in the channel. The allied landings on Normandy removed this aspect of the war as the front line moved to the east in Europe away from the channel.

Very much downplayed in the wiki of the pictured gun.

Read other reports in which the fatalities on the English side were more than double the figure quoted above.
 
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Here's the text for the article.
The two weapons are the newest additions to the Dinsdale exhibit at the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum in Brandon.
MELISSA VERGE/THE BRANDON SUN

The two weapons are the newest additions to the Dinsdale exhibit at the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum in Brandon.

Weapons used in the Second World War by former Brandon-Souris Conservative MP Walter Dinsdale will be unveiled at the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum on Tuesday.

One of the weapons is a Smith and Wesson .38, a British service revolver; the other is a P-35 semi-automatic pistol.

"We’re very pleased that we can preserve local history like this and this particular story is a fascinating one, just from the lifelong career that Walter had and his impact on Brandon as a whole, said Stephen Hayter, the museum’s executive director.

After serving in the war, Dinsdale went on to serve as Brandon-Souris MP from 1951 until his death in 1982.

The museum currently features an exhibit on Dinsdale; the weapons are being added to the array of items on display, including uniforms, a gas mask and an extensive row of military awards.

"I think there’s always a fascination with the weapons side of warfare, and these are the personal weapons that Walter had on him during his service," Hayter said.

During the war, Dinsdale flew a Mosquito attack bomber and wouldn’t have had much cause to use the revolver and pistol, Hayter said, but they were still an important part of his safety in operations.

The process of getting the weapons to Brandon was complicated, and current Brandon-Souris Conservative MP Larry Maguire had a part in helping them reach the Wheat City.

"Eric Dinsdale (Walter’s son) phoned me because the government wouldn’t allow the guns to come out of the (Canadian War Museum in Ottawa) because they were not decommissioned," Maguire said.

"So, I wrote a letter and made calls to the war museum," he said.

Through the RCMP, the museum said it was unable to move the weapons unless they were decommissioned, so Maguire phoned Eric, who said that it was OK to do so.

"As soon as they heard that they decommissioned the guns, that allowed them to come to Brandon," Maguire said.

Another of Dinsdale’s sons, Rolf Dinsdale, was happy to see the guns go to the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum.

"I’m glad to see the guns in a museum where they belong," he said. "I’m an advocate of gun control."

Members of the Dinsdale family will be on hand for the unveiling on Tuesday, as will Maguire, who will help dedicate the exhibit additions to the southwest region of the province.

Members of the community will also have a chance to learn more about the weapons and Dinsdale’s story.

"Mr. Dinsdale was a war hero, and it was very important that kind of history be here in southwest Manitoba for the effort that he put in during the war," Maguire said.

"It’s just another piece of Walter’s story and certainly it’s interesting from a visitor’s standpoint just to see the type of weaponry that a World War II airforce person would have been using at the time," Hayter said.

The presentation will begin at 10:30 a.m. at the Dinsdale display in the main gallery.
 
I've had cause to get a look at a number of 25pr field guns of late. It's a rare one that hasn't been absolutely butchered with a torch, then parked in the rain and left to the vandals. Statue guns live a very hard life.

These captured guns came home to Lethbridge with guys who went to WW1.

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Up close, the bores are filled with cement, the breechblocks either absent or welded to the breech rings, and everything that could walk away, has.

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Seems a shame to treat them like this.
 
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I've had cause to get a look at a number of 25pr field guns of late. It's a rare one that hasn't been absolutely butchered with a torch, then parked in the rain and left to the vandals. Statue guns live a very hard life.

These captured guns came home to Lethbridge with guys who went to WW1.

something-for-the-military.jpg


Up close, the bores are filled with cement, the breechblocks either absent or welded to the breech rings, and everything that could walk away, has.

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Seems a shame to treat them like this.

Seen those, even have a couple of pics I took. Seemed in better shape twenty years ago. A real shame. There used to be a German 105 at the side of the road in the Crowsnest pass as well. All exposed to the weather

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Grizz
 
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