Shilen barrel blanks and or prefit/pre chambered. Isnt offered in anything bigger then .458"
Or i would have loved to go 505 gibbs
But i think ill be happy with 600gr solid traveling 2400fps. The biggest ive shot was 375h&h
African game rifles in Canada?
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Shilen barrel blanks and or prefit/pre chambered. Isnt offered in anything bigger then .458"
Or i would have loved to go 505 gibbs
But i think ill be happy with 600gr solid traveling 2400fps. The biggest ive shot was 375h&h
BigUglyMan
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I'd do it in a 404Jeffery. Would have waaay more cool than a WBY.
If it's a true magnum then it makes more sense to do a 505 Gibbs. But the Jeffery is a cool cartridge too. I've always wanted a 416 Rigby in a standard Mauser...just like Harry Selby's.
I love the sound of the 505 in slow motion, working the bolt more so then the blast but none the less that was a cool video
That’s a great video!
Love the Merkel! (Cool perspective on working the bolt guns, too!)
I know that some folks would argue with this - but I think that there may be a case to be made for a "medium" here in North America. It definitely falls short of the .375 H&H...but the .376 Steyr sticks actual medium bore performance into an 'ought six length action, and is relatively mild mannered for a medium bore cartridge. This means that you can have a relatively light rifle that will speak with authority - even on a less than ideal shot angle - on even large North American game. The fact that it mirrors .308 ballistics (and the ergonomics of my .308 Steyr also makes practice to ensure effective shot placement a lot more affordable.
Here's some advice from someone who had been down this road.
416 Rigby, 404 Jeff, etc have a lot of romance about them. You read about them in the tales of days gone by and Ivory hunters, be game control, etc they are beautiful to look at, appreciate and own. Even more so when you own one in an older Mauser type English rifle.
Ballistically there are better calibers like weatherbys and others, but additional noise, recoil and expense of reloading are not necessarily justified.
Practically there are better calibers too.
458 win mag and Lott can be had in factory CZ rifles with long action Mauser type control feed ( almost essential for long cartridges)
458 express is a great south African wildcat.
The 450 rigby is a nice option because you get the old time caliber and nostalgia and it can be had with a barrel job on a 416 ribgy and brass can be sized from 416. Most importantly it shoots 45 Cal bullets which you will find a lot easier and more reasonably priced than feeding a 416 or a 404 Jeff.
At the end of the day, I would advise you to take stock of what you want and then go for it.
If you want the nostalgia and you accept the extra effort and cost in dies, bullets, etc go for the 416 Rigby.
If you want a nice big bore that can be had quick and easy and is not too bad to feed, look at 458 Lott or express and some handloading.
416 Rigby, 404 Jeff, etc have a lot of romance about them. You read about them in the tales of days gone by and Ivory hunters, be game control, etc they are beautiful to look at, appreciate and own. Even more so when you own one in an older Mauser type English rifle.
Ballistically there are better calibers like weatherbys and others, but additional noise, recoil and expense of reloading are not necessarily justified.
Practically there are better calibers too.
458 win mag and Lott can be had in factory CZ rifles with long action Mauser type control feed ( almost essential for long cartridges)
458 express is a great south African wildcat.
The 450 rigby is a nice option because you get the old time caliber and nostalgia and it can be had with a barrel job on a 416 ribgy and brass can be sized from 416. Most importantly it shoots 45 Cal bullets which you will find a lot easier and more reasonably priced than feeding a 416 or a 404 Jeff.
At the end of the day, I would advise you to take stock of what you want and then go for it.
If you want the nostalgia and you accept the extra effort and cost in dies, bullets, etc go for the 416 Rigby.
If you want a nice big bore that can be had quick and easy and is not too bad to feed, look at 458 Lott or express and some handloading.
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I was very tempted to buy a 416 a couple times, but in the end knew that it probably wouldn't have been used much and would cost a lot of money when the dies, brass and bullets were factored in ......... and the rifles are (and need to be) heavy. Not much fun to carry or shoot.
If one needs to scratch a "bigger bore" itch, a 375 H&H or Ruger is a much better route to go for hunting here in NA. BTDT.
Bingo!
Good choice for many folks & adaptable with handloads ranging from plinker to pachyderm with fine accuracy in many rifles.That said, it sure is nice to have decent 458 Win Mag for fans of the .45 cal rifles. Does the job just fine inside 200 yds.
I agree, flattened a moose with a .375 H&H and had the least amount of meat damage I have ever seen.
why do you say the 375 was marginal? I would think a 223 would be enough to sort out baboons.
Tongue in cheek, friends here used the gun that was in their hands too, that happened to be .40+.
You didn't happen to catch that on video did you? lol
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
No they posted above, nothing dramatic happens with even a .505 Gibbs on smaller game. The bullets are just too stiff and generally pass right through without drama. A .223 will make a bigger mess of a baboon than a .375 H&H.
