Garrison Petawawa PR5 29-30 Sep 2018 Debrief Here!

TacticalTeacher

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This year, with the increased demand to host PR Matches at CFB Petawawa, I've set up a working programme that will allow new people to get into the game quickly AND compete in a formal match ALL in one weekend. :wave:

With the formal Match taking place of Sunday, the instruction portion of the clinic has been compressed and a most helpful/desirable/sought after/ begged for "walk back" system has been put in place. This allows newbies and experts to obtain or confirm their zeroes or come-ups or settings for these ranges. :)

This new format allows shooters to participate on either day. So those who want the instruction and "walk back" of Saturday session are welcome. And of course those who want to come and shoot the Match on Sunday are equally free to do so.

Now with the new program, the Matches we can shoot are :

* 200 yard/meter Rapid Follow Up
* 300 yard/meter Agony Snap
* 500 yard/meter Snap
* 600 yard/meter Deliberate

Where

CFB Petawawa Bravo Range, But we will gather betwen 0800 and 0830 across from the Base Firehall (S-105). Once you show your ID at the main gate, make a quick right and you will see the Fire Hall. Look to your left and you will see a white bldg with 5 garage doors (P-141 Bldg) . We will be meeting in that parking lot. Then we will all convoy to Range Control for your Access Passes.

When

29-30 Sep 2018 Sat & Sunday

Cost


$60 for both days or $30 for the Sunday Match, if that works for you

$ 10 for the Sentry that Range Control requires us to provide. Morgan has been casually collecting some monies to help out the sentry (ies) but some folks see to have overlooked this extension of courtesy and good will. Now we have to cough up with a more serious application for the needed post. The $10 covers you for the weekend. Or $5 for the single day. And that’s why my astronomic expensive match fees are rising to $60 for the weekend. I’m merely collecting it all for Morgan and Heather.
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Where to Stay

* About 10-15min from range control (and right by Kelseys) http://www.petawawaqualityinnandsuites.com/
* 2 min from base with several fast food/pizza options close by http://www.petawawariverinnandsuites.ca/
* Blackbear campsite on base info and site map
http://www.cg.cfpsa.ca/cg-pc/Petawawa/EN/Facilities/BBC/Pages/BBCInformation.aspx


Material Focus

Everything I'll be teaching you is based on the PR matches fired by the ORA at Mons Range, CFB Borden. And I should know, I WAS the MATCH Director for the season of 2014! :cool: Yup, that's me... in the flesh! LOL


Here's the breakdown of this new hybrid weekend.....

Precision (read: Sniper) Rifle Clinics background information can be accessed, downloaded, and read down below:


The Precision rifle clinic prepares the shooter for competitions patterned after the course of fire shot by the DCRA or Dominion of Canada Rifle association at their Annual Prize meeting for Service Conditions held every year at CRPTC or Connaught Range and Primary Training Center near Shirley's Bay in the Kanata/Nepean area. The course of fire can be downloaded in PDF format at www.dcra.ca

These matches are shot monthly by the ORA or www.ontariorifleassociation.ca at CFB Borden , ON. The ORA follows the DCRA rulebook and course of fire . The purpose of this clinic is to prepare the competitor to shoot these matches.


Precision / Sniper Rifle Kit to Bring:

* A safe precision/sniper rifle in at least .223 Rem caliber and larger 308, 303, and 338 LM.
* Hand operated target turrets on your optic already mounted to your rifle. 4.5 x 14 scopes are common. 6.5 x 20 scopes are seen frequently. 8 x 30 scopes are great optics for these matches. Scopes with a parallax adjustable side focus work well. Adjustable objective scopes work too, but more annoying to work with while in the prone position. Just don't show up with the stereotypical 3 x 9 coin operated hunting scopes because you will be wasting your time (and money)

* At the Sep 2013 Clinic we had some hunting scopes on the line, they were super frustrated with the coin operated turrets. I warned them, but they insisted. Now they are wiser from this experience. Please; go to school on their experiences.


* Suggested scope choices:
- Bushnell Elite 6400, 6500, HDMR, Sightron, Falcon Menace, Leupold Mark 8
- Leupold Mark 4 LR/T, Vortex Viper PST, IOR Valdada, Nikon, Vortex Razor, Zeiss
- NightForce, US Optics, Premier Reticles, Schmidt & Bender, Swarovski, Kahles
- My all time FAV entry level scope: Bushnell Elite 3200 10X 40mm Mildot (google it) $ 275 (it's issued with the Barrett .50 cal rifles)

* Rear bunny, sand bag, mono pod style rear rests work, too.
* Notebook to record your sight settings, bulldog clip or a small clipboard
* Anemometer (Kestrel-style) hand held wind gauges (not a requirement, but nice to start with)
* Spotting scope and tripod (not a requirement but we can pair you up with someone who does have one)
* Rucksack, 3 day pack, Assault pack to carry your kit around the range
* Snacks, granola bars, nuts, fruit, extra fluids, beef jerky is my fav range snack
* 200 rounds of safe, tested, reliable ammunition for your rifle (hopefully chronographed already)
* Sunscreen, bug dope, ballistic glasses, hearing defenders
* Extra food and water (someone always forgets)
* Screwdriver set - compact enough?
* OH Shzt Kit (if you don't know, I will teach you)
* Rain gear or appropriate foul weather gear
* Shooting mat / folding rifle case/ yoga mat
* Ensure your rifle is zeroed for 100m
* Range Dope for : 100m zero, 200m, 300m, 400m , 500m , 600m....you can do this by downloading a ballistics calculator from the App Store for your handheld device (Android and IOS), JBL Ballistics, Strelock, ISnipe, Applied Ballistics, and my all time FREE favourite App: BallisticsGL
* then when you carry out the Walkback Practice on Saturday, you will kinda confirm what your come ups on your scope. Much learning!


Caliber Restrictions

Caliber Restrictions are IN place so .223, .308, .303, .338 calibers are allowed ONLY (hey, it's their sandbox)

We are constantly in a state of negotiations with Range Control...



Itinerary for the Weekend


Saturday AM:

* Gather across from Base Fire Hall (S-105) and park with us at Bldg P-141
* Proceed to Range Control and Obtain Access Passes
* Travel to Bravo Range and Park, Briefing at The 100m mound
* Zeroing at 100 yards maybe 200 and 300m before lunch
* Bring your bagged sandwich/lunch/ snacks/beef jerky. No time to drive any where on or off base.

Saturday PM:

* Zeroing at 400, 500, and 600m
* Impromptu lessons on windreading, spotter/sniper comms, detection and correction

Sunday AM:

* Gather at 0800-0830 Across from the Base Fire Hall
* Some Sunday Walk Ons will need to obtain their Range Control Vehicle Passes
* Convoy out to the Training Area Range
* Score Card distributed, Butts set up, Staff assigned, Targets inventoried and prepared
* Relays squaded, shooter/spotters paired up if need be
* Range Safety briefing by RSO
* Conduct of the Match
* Lunch ON the Range (no time to run into town) Bring a sandwich or two; lots of water and snacks and more snacks

Sunday PM:

* Continuation of the match
* Clean up of range (firing points and butts)
* Statistics being entered and winners determined, prizes awarded
* Range March Off


Questions?

* Ask me right here in this thread. Others might be curious with the same concerns.

Registration?

* EMT of $60 gets you a spot on the roster for both day, but you can shoot the single day for $ 30 (Walk on folks are welcome

EMT Information:
Name: Tactical Teacher
Question: What is your Original CGN handle?
Answer: hungry (all low caps so I cannot mess things up)
Email address: hungry556 AT bell.net

Somewhere in the EMT, remind me of your CGN handle and which clinic it's for (CQB, PR, or M14)

RBC tweaked my EMT software into direct deposit...so EMT process my be shorter!



Cheers and keep helping the noobs out there!
 
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Stats page..... for the results....

And here they are

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All sorts of observations to be gleaned but here are some of mine....

* it’s nice to see a father / child team and also when the kid beats that parent... Duncan and Sgmacken
* More wonderful to see beginners from last season start winning matches and the Aggregate today!

Formal Debrief to follow soon....
 

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Sign Me Up, EMT Incoming

You are signed up once I receive your EMT....I have lots of space available for this match.
CeeJay, your EMT is Good to GO! All great. Now tighten up that M1A rig and you will be ready to shoot ...just show up with a 100m zero.

Honestly I’ve had clients who were mad at me because I pushed / insisted/ required them to have a 100m zero. This client appeared with a scope that was not on my list (in the first post) ... he reminded that he got a killer deal (famous last words). We could not get that scope zero’ed at 100m. :eek:

More anecdotal funny stories for me... and people wonder if I could ever make these stories up! I’m not THAT creative... I wish I was !

Folks, if money is tight consider the Bushnell 10 power x 40mm Tactical LRS scope for under $300. I have TWO of them here. They are the best value for the money! They are my go-to scope whenever I want quality glass (Japanese) quickly. And I just love their exposed target knobs that are easily manipulated while “slipping your scales” after zeroing at 100m. This glass comes with Bushnell’s forever warranty which I have only used once in my life and that was back in 1986 when I lived in Newmarket, ON. Their warranty shop was in Markham and as a newbie, I was schooled on how great their response was. It left a super impression on me.

:wave:

Cheers, Barney
 
You are Good to GO! EMT was perfectly done. Glad you are finally going to join all the fun here in the Valley....

Cheers, Barney


Sure am glad to join in, i was always waiting to get all the perfect gear before signing up, but since i had a 800M invite at Connaught i am definitely hooked to shooting figure 11 style targets at a distance!
But you guys will have to bear with me as i have no spotting scope yet.
Got a labradar though which i will bring, in the event someone in the group should need a quick and precise chrono for his load.

At Connaught we had something i will call (and know it’s not the propper term) a target pit.
With some of the guys running the pits, patching targets and installing hit indicators.
Is Petawawa set up in a similar fashion?
 
Sure am glad to join in, i was always waiting to get all the perfect gear before signing up, but since i had a 800M invite at Connaught i am definitely hooked to shooting figure 11 style targets at a distance!
But you guys will have to bear with me as i have no spotting scope yet.
Got a labradar though which i will bring, in the event someone in the group should need a quick and precise chrono for his load.

At Connaught we had something i will call (and know it’s not the propper term) a target pit.
With some of the guys running the pits, patching targets and installing hit indicators.
Is Petawawa set up in a similar fashion?

We call them the Butts. You will be tasked to work down there! Except in Garrison Petawawa all the Butts are enclosed in concrete!

Cheers, Barney
 
Yes the butts...
They we’re fully made of concrete too.

Alright i got a good feeling what’s waiting for me and September 29th can’t get here quick enough!
 
Hey Barney, finally a weekend that is open, we might be able to make this one. Mmmm... Danny's

I need to brainstorm some food culture for / with CQB , but with the single day event it’s kinda hard. That’s the beauty of Meaford LRSC in 7-8-9 September 2018. We have many places to eat. For example one night in Ted’s Range Diner and another night at the Leeky Canoe, downtown Meaford. I gotta get ChalkRiver2 all amped up to eat there. Then we can drop,him off at the Blue Oyster after dinner (secret bar in Thornbury) Hahahaha :evil:

We will then see how our Pathfinder finds his way back to the barracks! :cool:

Cheers, Barney
 
Question:
I've read over the information about PR5 - I'm shooting 6.5 Creedmoor, Is that allowed on the range?

Sorry to break the bad news but 308 and 223 and 338 Lap Mag and 303 Brit caliber allowed! I just leave my 260 Remmy 700 Magpul for Base Borden and Connaught Ranges. For Garrison Petawawa, I have two PR rigs in 308 for this purpose!

Cheers, Barney

:wave:
 
@TacticalTeacher, are muzzle brakes allowed at these matches?

Yes they are .


Mind you, if you are shooting a Ruger RPR, (like I do), you may have to contribute to the Saturday night beverages for the shooter next to you, to ease the fact that the RPR muzzle brake tries to blow their ear defenders off. H'mm, I wonder if I can start a "crowd funding" in the group for me to buy a new muzzle break..:)
Or, they put you and I next to each other, and we mutually punish each other.. :)
 
10-4
If i see that RPR on the line i’ll keep my distances!
In the future, myself am using the Heathens by insite arms, and so far my neighbors do not have excessive noise to report when shooting next to me.
 
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